Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Forever_blueco]

On 20/07/2021 at 22:43, Elixir said:

People like this need psychological help.

 

Was reading folk leaving seething filled comments regarding a picture of folk queuing to get in a club somewhere down in England 
 

some people are properly mentally damaged by all this and the fear spewed out by goverment and media over last 18 months . They really need to put as much effort and time in to a campaign of telling people it’s ok to enjoy life again over the  next few months or some people will be genuine hermits 

[Lyle Lanley]

Josh has lost the plot. 

[8MileBU]

5 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Josh has lost the plot. 

He went wild with the Covid-conspiracy tweets a few months back. Repeatedly made an arse of himself to the point literally hundreds of folk were telling him to wind it in and shut up. 

Looks like he’s learned f**k all.

[craigkillie]

Who would have thought that being punched in the head repeatedly for a living might end up with you being a little bit dense?

[RandomGuy.]

On 19/07/2021 at 18:11, Lyle Lanley said:

Hopefully you'll get a full 100% capacity crowd for that 2nd leg.

Looks like we won't even be hosting the game at McDiarmid 

SNP refusing to allow Galatasaray to play in Scotland, or Saints to play in Turkey then return and play league games, so under UEFA rules both games will need to be played at a neutral venue. Costing us £50k for the privilege.

Great stuff.

[Lyle Lanley]

19 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Looks like we won't even be hosting the game at McDiarmid 

SNP refusing to allow Galatasaray to play in Scotland, or Saints to play in Turkey then return and play league games, so under UEFA rules both games will need to be played at a neutral venue. Costing us £50k for the privilege.

Great stuff.

That's crap news that. 

Hopefully the SNP will change their mind. 

[Guest TheJTS98]

Singapore's 'live with covid' plan was mentioned on here recently.

Government already rowing that back for now with restrictions tightened again.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spore-returns-to-phase-2-what-you-need-to-know-about-tightened-covid-19-rules-from

Singapore has better rates of first vaccine done than the UK, and only 5% lower fully vaccinated.

There have been 36 deaths from covid in Singapore and the government there seem to like the idea of keeping that low.

[Arabdownunder]

On 14/07/2021 at 17:21, UsedToGoToCentralPark said:

TL;DR

We JuSt DoNt KnOw

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0253510

Increasingly, we do

[Guest TheJTS98]

It's been mentioned by some that there are cultural reasons for it being easier for Asian countries to enforce covid restrictions due to 'they do what they're told etc etc' views.

That argument is falling apart. Ignoring the fact that Malaysia, Thailand, Myanmar, Korea, Hong Kong, Indonesia, are all places that have seen large-scale, often violent, anti-government political protests in recent years, and some do regularly, the covid experience is showing this to be nonsense.

One source of Singapore's new spike is people ignoring rules around hostess bars; people in Korea are upsetting the government by carrying on with marches etc despite being asked not to; Hong Kong is having trouble getting its old people to accept vaccination; a big source of spread in Malaysia has been illegal drinking and nightclub activity, with plenty more fined for breaking or trying to break internal travel rules. Every religious holiday has seen rules widely ignored.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/discriminatory-response-to-covid-19-korea-herald

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spike-in-covid-19-cases-raises-disturbing-questions-but-also-carries-lessons-for

The difference in how covid has affected different regions is not a cultural phenomenon. It's about good governance and listening to experts. The public may be more likely to support this when they see good results, but these decisions were open to other countries too.

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by TheJTS98

[SlipperyP]

UPdate from the Land of Lies

• Record number of cases now 13,000 yesterday and 108 deaths
• Rioting on the streets of Bangkok, police using rubber bullets and water cannons
• Army to go house to house and test people, if infected you are taken to a 'field hospital' imminently
• Schools to be made into 'field hospitals'
• Mask wearing in your house
• Social distancing in your house, not to eat together
• Government plans to join the Global Vaccination Program (most countries joined LAST YEAR)
• 50% deduction in Education budget (money has to come from somewhere)
• tourists escaping Phucket 
• 4.8% fully vaccinated
• my grass needs cut, but it's not stopped raining for 4 days

[Guest TheJTS98]

4 minutes ago, SlipperyP said:

UPdate from the Land of Lies

• Record number of cases now 13,000 yesterday and 108 deaths
• Rioting on the streets of Bangkok, police using rubber bullets and water cannons
• Army to go house to house and test people, if infected you are taken to a 'field hospital' imminently
• Schools to be made into 'field hospitals'
• Mask wearing in your house
• Social distancing in your house, not to eat together
• Government plans to join the Global Vaccination Program (most countries joined LAST YEAR)
• 50% deduction in Education budget (money has to come from somewhere)
• tourists escaping Phucket 
• 4.8% fully vaccinated
• my grass needs cut, but it's not stopped raining for 4 days

If ever there was a country pissing away its potential by being run by crooks. Fucking hell.

[RandomGuy.]

6 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

That's crap news that. 

Hopefully the SNP will change their mind. 

Our local councillor is saying there's no chance, literally says they won't budge because they see us as a "small club who won't make waves".

We can't play a Turkish side when Turkey has around 8k cases daily, while Rangers can host Real Madrid while Spain has 30k cases daily.

The last year has completely fucking eroded any support I had for the SNP.

[Michael W]

4 hours ago, SlipperyP said:

UPdate from the Land of Lies

• Record number of cases now 13,000 yesterday and 108 deaths
• Rioting on the streets of Bangkok, police using rubber bullets and water cannons
• Army to go house to house and test people, if infected you are taken to a 'field hospital' imminently
• Schools to be made into 'field hospitals'
• Mask wearing in your house
• Social distancing in your house, not to eat together
• Government plans to join the Global Vaccination Program (most countries joined LAST YEAR)
• 50% deduction in Education budget (money has to come from somewhere)
• tourists escaping Phucket 
• 4.8% fully vaccinated
• my grass needs cut, but it's not stopped raining for 4 days

Good grief. How do they intend to enforce such nonsense? 

Edited July 22, 2021 by Michael W

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Our local councillor is saying there's no chance, literally says they won't budge because they see us as a "small club who won't make waves".
We can't play a Turkish side when Turkey has around 8k cases daily, while Rangers can host Real Madrid while Spain has 30k cases daily.
The last year has completely fucking eroded any support I had for the SNP.

The reason Turkey is on the red list and Spain is on the amber list has nothing to do with case numbers.

Turkey (Istanbul) is seen as a major transit hub between Europe, Asia and Africa.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-uk-covid-data-travel-red-list

That being said, if that is the case, you have to question why Turkey (Istanbul) is not being treated the same as Spain, France and the Netherlands, which also have major transit hub between Europe, Asia and Africa, yet are on the amber list.

Possibly a complete lack of trust in the official Turkish numbers given how they lied about case numbers last year?

There's certainly something going on for them to be treated differently.

[RandomGuy.]

1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

The reason Turkey is on the red list and Spain is on the amber list has nothing to do with case numbers.
 

 

I mean, the Scottish Government done literally nothing to prevent hordes of Scots travelling to London just weeks ago, so I've little sympathy in them using Turkeys "centrality" as an excuse.

[SlipperyP]

19 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Good grief. How do they intend to enforce such nonsense? 

They can't, what we have here as our elected government  junta is a load of Generals living in the bygone age.  As the P&B quote goes they are "scrambling for relevance".  You may have clown shoes, we have clown shoe department of Thailand running the country.  It's laughable, unfortunately  I live here.

We are still going to buy submarines (we don't have water deep enough) from the Chinese, that's all that matters at the moment.  Also, if you go back to the start of this thread, when it was first hitting Thailand, we didn't test people, we tested BATS. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I mean, the Scottish Government done literally nothing to prevent hordes of Scots travelling to London just weeks ago, so I've little sympathy in them using Turkeys "centrality" as an excuse.

Despite all the bluster there was legally f**k all the Scottish Government could do to stop Scots travelling to London.

In terms of green, amber and red lists - the impression is that the Celtic nations are making independent decisions - the reality is that these decisions are pretty much driven by whatever is decided by the UK government.

Bar the treatment of the Greek Islands last year, where the Scottish Government had a harsher stance, they've pretty much followed every decision on international travel made by the UK government.

[Forever_blueco]

10 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Despite all the bluster there was legally f**k all the Scottish Government could do to stop Scots travelling to London.

In terms of green, amber and red lists - the impression is that the Celtic nations are making independent decisions - the reality is that these decisions are pretty much driven by whatever is decided by the UK government.

Bar the treatment of the Greek Islands last year, where the Scottish Government had a harsher stance, they've pretty much followed every decision on international travel made by the UK government.

She came out a few days after the whole London carry on and said there was a travel ban between Scotland and North West England for non essential travel . There’s plenty they could have done to try and reduce numbers heading down to London but they done f**k all and the media lapped it all up. 

 

[Michael W]

Spain and France are also well ahead of Turkey in their respective vaccination programmes. 

Not so sure I'd say we've been lenient with them either. France is "Amber plus' because of a variant mostly found on an African island pretty much no-one from Britain will visit and there are fairly persistent rumours Spain will be added too. 

[Melanius Mullarkey]

38 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

I mean, the Scottish Government done literally nothing to prevent hordes of Scots travelling to London just weeks ago, so I've little sympathy in them using Turkeys "centrality" as an excuse.

We’re you vociferously seething at the time of the Scotland game?