Jump to content
ICTChris

Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Recommended Posts

14 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Yes, read that too.

Maybe they’re trying to get us to expect the worst so that what they do announce doesn’t sound too bad.

A well tried manoeuvre.

I could potentially live with this 4 week extension so long as they committed to this being the absolute end, no more legal restrictions, no masks unless you’ve got the sniffles yourself, full opening of international travel to all green and amber countries (i can genuinely live with the idea of red lists where justified for another 6 months, its relatively reasonable) with no testing for vaccinated folks. 
if they do that and fully open up then it’d soften the blow, but anything else is entirely unacceptable. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We need acceleration, not delays.  
 

Have they looked at the numbers of deaths?  We are absolutely smashing it.   We should at minimum be dropping a level in a week.    We are halfway through the ‘wait 2 weeks’ and current signs are we are comfortably handling the current situation.    Next few days looking similar should be enough to make further relaxations.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Telegraph report is probably correct. If we don't get the restrictions binned soon we won't get them gone this year. 

Bear in mind that the Coronavirus Act expires at the end of September and needs renewed. Just as flu season approaches and the time for another airing of we just don't know!  Following that another round of emotional blackmail about are wonderful NHS will ensue and that'll probably be it. 

The stubborn refusal to open international travel says a lot about the government's attitude to reopening. We are again approaching the level where the UK has the highest level of infection in Europe and yet we're pontificating with these de facto bans and detterants because of non-existent variants. We even removed Portugal from the green list (which still requires PCRs before travel and before arrival in the UK even if you're fully vaccinated) under dubious pretences. 

They have also completely hanged themselves with their knickerwetting about variants. Totally overplayed them and are now in arse covering mode since one of them is now dominant here. The vaccines are still effective against them yet they remain silent on this. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If the key to getting us out this horror show is the vaccination programme, I don't see why the government don't legislate and make it compulsory to be vaccinated. 

No if's, no but's, no exceptions unless for valid medical reasons. 

The government have been quick enough to legislate to take away our freedoms. Now legislate to give us them back. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are the weeks 2nd dose percentages league table for adults vaccinated in Scotland. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations?areaType=ltla&areaName=Aberdeen City

Some very impressive percentages from some areas this week, North Ayrshire, Perth & Kinross (10.2%), Borders, Angus, East Lothian, Aberdeenshire, Falkirk, Stirling, Midlothian, Dundee, and West Lothian all worth a mention here.

As I said before I believe a finishing line of around 65% to 60% total vaccination is probably where all the vulnerable groups and those who come into frequent contact are. I would think that over that percentage and those groups are complete and the areas are now vaccinating the under 50 with their second jag so would expect slow downs as those areas focus more on completing1st doses then back to 2nd doses in a few weeks when these appointments come round. Quite a few areas having 1st jag drives to push vaccinating as many as possible I would expect those same areas in 8-12 weeks to push on 2nd doses for these same people.

1/ Western Isles 73.3% to 76.1%

2/ Orkney Islands 65.9% to 74.8%

3/ Shetland Islands 66.1% to 68.2%

4/ Dumfries and Galloway 63.6% to 67.3%

5/ Argyll and Bute  61.8% to 66.8%

6/ Clackmannanshire 58.7% to 62.9%

7/ East Ayrshire 56.7% to 62.8%

8/ North Ayrshire 53.7% to 62.6%

9/ South Ayrshire 58.6% to 62.5%

10/ Perth and Kinross 51.7% to 61.9%

11/ Borders 55.3% to 61.6%

12/ Angus 53% to 60.9%

13/ Fife 56.9% to 60.5%

14/ Moray 56.1% to 58.8%

15/ Highland 53% to 57.9%

15/ South Lanarkshire 52.9% to 57.9%

17/ East Lothian 51.5% to 58.8%

18/ Aberdeenshire 51.3% to 58.4%

19/ Falkirk 49.7% to 57%

20/ Stirling 50% to 56.2%

21/ Midlothian 48.7% to 55.9%

22/ East Dunbartonshire 50.3% to 55.5%

23/ North Lanarkshire 48.5% to 53.9%

24/ Dundee City 47.1% to 53.7%

25/ West Lothian 45.8% to 52.9%

26/ Inverclyde 46.5% to 52.4%

27/ East Renfrewshire 46.3% to 51.3%

28/ West Dunbartonshire 46.8% to 51.2%

29/ Renfrewshire 43.6% to 48.6%

30/ Aberdeen City 41.1% to 46.5%

31/ City of Edinburgh 38.1% to 42.4%

32/ Glasgow City 37.6% to 40.1%

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

If the key to getting us out this horror show is the vaccination programme, I don't see why the government don't legislate and make it compulsory to be vaccinated. 

No if's, no but's, no exceptions unless for valid medical reasons. 

The government have been quick enough to legislate to take away our freedoms. Now legislate to give us them back. 

Compelling people by law to get a vaccination is the opposite of restoring freedoms. There is no need for this abysmal take when the government could simply shut the door to the independent SAGE psycho brigade and stop shifting the goalposts every five minutes. 

There should be an objective set of criteria and legal oversight to end restrictions accordingly, rather than the emergency powers and back of a fag packet decisions made by all UK governments.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

If the key to getting us out this horror show is the vaccination programme, I don't see why the government don't legislate and make it compulsory to be vaccinated. 

No if's, no but's, no exceptions unless for valid medical reasons. 

The government have been quick enough to legislate to take away our freedoms. Now legislate to give us them back. 

 

I'm glad that the majority of people are wanting to be vaccinated of their own choice, the numbers support this. It would be taking that choice away from people if the vaccination became compulsory and would be taking away a freedom of choice that we should have as a right, yet you are complaining here about government doing exactly this but we must have compulsory vaccination. A bit of a contradiction there.

Far too much focus on the anti vaxers and attention seekers on social media, they are not as widespread as you think and the vaccination programs aren't slowing down because of them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
If the key to getting us out this horror show is the vaccination programme, I don't see why the government don't legislate and make it compulsory to be vaccinated. 
No if's, no but's, no exceptions unless for valid medical reasons. 
The government have been quick enough to legislate to take away our freedoms. Now legislate to give us them back. 
 
Some of the antivaxxers will change their tune once they realise they won't get to travel internationally without being vaccinated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Daily Cases Update:  As yesterday get the feeling we may be near the peak. Cases up just 1.54%.   Rest of UK now rising faster.

1st real anomaly in the levels as Level 1 West Dunbartonshire surges past level 2 East Dunbartonshire.  Be interesting to see what Scotgov says if questioned.

Major countries in Europe.   Sweden with a big rise to 129.9 per 100K, then Scotland 113.6, Denmark 88.3, Netherlands 76.1,  Belgium 75.3 are the only other countries above 75

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Total Cases 7 days from 4th June to 10th June  were 6114 now 6208 up 1.54%.  Positivity was 3.7% now 3.8%.   Cases per 100k were 111.9 now 113.6

Home Nations Daily update:  UK Average  61.1 to 64.7 up 5.89%, England  60.2 to 63.9 up 6.15%,  Wales  17.1 to 18.9 up 10.53%, Northern Ireland 29.5 to 31.5 up 6.78%

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

HELD BACK AT SCHOOL LEVEL 2 RED

Dundee City   278.6 to 288.6  8% Positivity  and fairly rampant throughout city.

South Ayrshire  213.1 to 226.4

Clackmannanshire  209.5 to 209.5

City Of Edinburgh   189.4  to 195.6

Midlothian   187.1 to 181.7 

Glasgow City    163.5 to 163.6

Angus   178.1 to 154.9  LEVEL 1 

Perth & Kinross   149.4 to 152.0  LEVEL 1  

East Renfrewshire   137.1 to 137.1 

West Dunbartonshire    121.4 to 134.9  LEVEL 1    

East Ayrshire   141.0 to 132.0 

Renfrewshire    137.9 to 130.7

East Dunbartonshire    129.8 to 129.8

East Lothian 113.9 to 123.3 LEVEL 1 

West Lothian    112.5 to 115.8  LEVEL1

North Ayrshire  93.5 to 107.6 

North Lanarkshire  104.6 to 105.2

South Lanarkshire   99.5 to 98.3

Fife   56.5 to 62.1

Aberdeen City  54.7 to 60.8

Scottish  Borders 43.3 to 58.0 

Stirling   71.1 to 57.3

OFFICIAL  LEVEL 1 BLACK

Dumfries & Galloway 39.6 to 47.7 

Inverclyde  34.7 to 37.3 

Falkirk  39.2 to 36.0

Argyll & Bute   31.4 to 34.9

Aberdeenshire     24.1 to 24.1

Highlands  14.4 to 12.3

Moray   13.6 to 10.4

OFFICIAL LEVEL 0  Teuchters in Green

Shetland Islands  13.1 to 4.4

Orkney Islands  4.5 to 0.0 

Western Isles  3.7 to 0.0


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I would suspect the main reason there may be no shows is that younger people are more mobile so blue letters may have gone to addresses they no longer live at.
The young generation who can easily check their vaccination status online and sort any discrepancies out themselves. Blue envelope is a blue herring.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, mizfit said:

 


Is it possible the no-shows is because we’re at the age group of morons who believe conspiracy theories? That’s been my concern the further down the age groups they go.

Don't know, but I suspect it's not a coincidence that the age group that isn't taking the vaccine in the same numbers is exactly the same age of people with the lowest rate of registration with GPs/ dental surgeries. It's always been a struggle to engage this age group with the NHS - many of whom might not have a GP appointment for years (until they actually need one).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

Don't know, but I suspect it's not a coincidence that the age group that isn't taking the vaccine in the same numbers is exactly the same age of people with the lowest rate of registration with GPs/ dental surgeries. It's always been a struggle to engage this age group with the NHS - many of whom might not have a GP appointment for years (until they actually need one).

I think there are a few breakdowns in communication here, such as not informing of change in address. It happens. Take also into consideration that there are a number of people who move around a lot, have no permanent address or are simply homeless and end up under the radar, no evidence that it has any thing to do with young people's assumed attitudes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quite strange i saw part of an interview with the health sec where the messaging around the 28th of June, although not incredibly positive, wasnt as negative as we’ve seen. Is there perhaps an outside chance of the 28th happening here? 
Looking at the figures sorta slowing a bit here it could be that the ‘third wave’ is nearing a wee peak, which suppose after over a month is expected, hospital levels are #dece and ICU levels are spectacular? Im just looking at the numbers as a lay man, surely we will have someone with a PhD in statistics or something who can shed some light on their thoughts...?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did think the 21st June was maybe a but optimistic, I still think Mid-July.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The amount of fucking weapons out there trying to claim what happened to Eriksen is the result of him taking the vaccine.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, mizfit said:

The amount of fucking weapons out there trying to claim what happened to Eriksen is the result of him taking the vaccine.

Really?

I haven't seen any of that. Anybody trying to pin his collapse on a vaccination is a w****r.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, mizfit said:

The amount of fucking weapons out there trying to claim what happened to Eriksen is the result of him taking the vaccine.

Back in the old days these people would burn some poor innocent woman at the stake or hang them claiming witchcraft when something their pea sized brains can't understand goes wrong.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...