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1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Oh god yes, thats the problem with that messaging, decent folks dont want to ‘overwhelm’ the NHS even with serious conditions and the same mutants who demand double GP appointments because their wee brat has sneezed twice dont get it. Until we start to tell people to f**k off when they go to the doctor unnecessarily and strike the balance with encouraging people to be seen with the right symptoms we’ll never get the NHS sorted.
The amount of doctors time wasted with drug seeking and arseholes demanding referrals for nonsense or prescriptions for fucking paracetamol ‘fur the wean’ means they have even less appointments for people who actually need them. The converse to that is when these people get told they dont need to be seen they turn around and go to A&E blocking up the waiting times there only to be told ‘you didnt need to be seen here this is a waste of time’.  Ive seen people suggest things like charges for appointments etc but thats also dangerous as the time wasters and facebook maws would get the appointments free anyway or complain to the local paper/msp etc who will take their side and cause grief. 

Wow, you make really great points straight from the coal face.

Very, very difficult.
However, on balance, despite all the problems, I do think we should introduce appointment charges. We accept these for things like physio therapy, dental charges, chiropody and more.£25 a go. Let’s try it. People pay a fortune on vet fees!! Enough said.

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2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Wow, you make really great points straight from the coal face.

Very, very difficult.
However, on balance, despite all the problems, I do think we should introduce appointment charges. We accept these for things like physio therapy, dental charges, chiropody and more.£25 a go. Let’s try it. People pay a fortune on vet fees!! Enough said.

I think Div should introduce posting fees.

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Its no exaggeration to say there are probably many thousands of livelihoods in Scotland at stake, aswell as some very basic freedoms, which entirely hinge on the Tory backbenches of the UK gov as said above.

What a dreadful situation to be in to hope those fucking ghouls force a return to normal, and even worse that they are being resisted for reasons no one has a clue about.

This fan zone debacle has shown our government up as being as small time as a Parish Council, with UK Gov being equally as bad, just on a bigger scale.

The problem for pubs and restaurants isnt just the restrictions they are operating under directly. Its the fact that the longer this goes on, more and more people will go less and less with a huge number just not bothering anymore. The amount of folk who have come to a realisation about how much money can be saved this way will be enormous.

Watching these restrictions remain in place, and lets face it theres a bare minimum of 2 or 3 months of it left, with justification dwindling is sickening. Really horrible. I just wish there was someone organised enough to make these c***s answer for it, but everyone has been bullied and browbeaten into unquestioning compliance.

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6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

The problem for pubs and restaurants isnt just the restrictions they are operating under directly. Its the fact that the longer this goes on, more and more people will go less and less with a huge number just not bothering anymore. The amount of folk who have come to a realisation about how much money can be saved this way will be enormous

I think this could be in part be generational, older people who have their own place will be happy to have pints at home especially with the working man's kettle and such providing a perfect pint.

Whereas young people, that I know and I myself, are making up for lost time I have been out more in the easements than I would have done pre Pandemic.

Depending on how long the spell of making up for lost time lasts then it could be a culture change or just a flash in the pan.

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The Theresa May speech is a strange one. I agree completely with what she says but it says a lot about politicians that if she were Prime Minister we'd probably still be in the exact situation we are now.

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Linda Bauld saying that level 0 can’t go ahead on the 28th as ‘some young people’ may end up in hospital and ‘1 in 10’ are at risk of long covid.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19369046.covid-euro-2020-house-gatherings-fears-expert-warns-tough-lockdown-return/?fbclid=IwAR1wKQHvPkqr74xb-o0PtyQTLNghiMGIfmdtacsfyIKpMrF3p_4_21aMoIk

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My mate is doing vaccines today in Forth Valley.
Only 300 booked in all day for 11 vaccinators.  Under 25s who randomly turn up to be refused.
Yesterday there was a 55pct no show.
Mental.
Alloa college was pretty quiet when I was there. I literally walked in, straight to a chair and jagged. That was at 1130 on a Saturday. If it wasnt for the 15 min wait after getting it, id have been in and out in less than 5 mins.

Not ideal for a Saturday id say.

I cant keep up with what groups are offcially being done anymore, it seems to have sort of just opened out a bit now, but are there uptake stats avaipable for the younger age groups kicking about?

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26 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

 I was having a conversation with my colleague about this  last week.  The same time wasting drug seeking wasters on the list day after day with made up shit taking away appointments from those who actually need it.  It's infuriating and it blocks patients who actually need seen and investigated from getting the treatment they need.

I actually had a clown last week that was genuinely raging that their scans and bloods (which weren't merited in the first place) were as clear as a bell.  What's wrong with me then, er nothing funnily enough.  See you next week for more frivilous pish.   

I think you need a hug Tynie.

I had a Chest x-ray & stomach and liver ultrasounds 2 weeks ago because of suspected cancer due to continual vomiting & a persistent cough since January, I got the all clear & pretty much danced out of my GP Surgery as I am all clear, I couldn't care less that they have no idea why it is happening as it is clear it is nothing serious.

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14 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

My mate is doing vaccines today in Forth Valley.

Only 300 booked in all day for 11 vaccinators.  Under 25s who randomly turn up to be refused.

Yesterday there was a 55pct no show.

Mental.

I’m 41 and in Ayrshire. Not a sign of a first appointment never mind a second jag. 
 

I was in Stornoway recently and all I had to to get first jag was get a temporary registration with a local GP and then I was give a slot to turn up at the Caber Feidh hotel and get jagged. 
 

I would happily turn up at the Galleon centre in Kilmarnock today and get 2nd jag but they aren’t interested.

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My mate is doing vaccines today in Forth Valley.
Only 300 booked in all day for 11 vaccinators.  Under 25s who randomly turn up to be refused.
Yesterday there was a 55pct no show.
Mental.


Is it possible the no-shows is because we’re at the age group of morons who believe conspiracy theories? That’s been my concern the further down the age groups they go.

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Is it possible the no-shows is because we’re at the age group of morons who believe conspiracy theories? That’s been my concern the further down the age groups they go.
I would suspect the main reason there may be no shows is that younger people are more mobile so blue letters may have gone to addresses they no longer live at.

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2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

The mood music is not good this morning for those of us who want a normal life back.

The Telegraph ....a paper I hate quoting, but one that does have links to the Tory government .....is reporting that if lockdown is not totally lifted within a relatively short window this summer, then it's very likely that we'll be under some kind of restrictions into next spring and beyond. 

And given that the Scottish government is instinctively more cautious than Westminster, this would seem to spell disaster for anyone desperate for true 'freedom'. 

At the same time, Europe and the USA...countries not riddled with the delta variant because they don't have leaders desperate for a trade deal with India, and had already banned flights from there at the same time that we were allowing 110 per week to come in.....are removing restrictions and opening up travel. 

The feeling that this nightmare is never going to end is overwhelming. 

I don’t get why next spring is mentioned. Surely by that reasoning they’re basically saying vaccines are a token gesture and it’s really just a seasonal problem like the cold/flu. That’s the way they’re making it seem. By Sept there should be no restrictions anywhere at the very latest. Hanging on for every last healthy adult to be vaccinated twice is a shocker. We should have been back to normality when the elderly and vulnerable were double dosed and not a day later

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I would suspect the main reason there may be no shows is that younger people are more mobile so blue letters may have gone to addresses they no longer live at.


There is that too.
I’m maybe over estimating the number of moon howlers out there.

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1 hour ago, Tynierose said:

My mate is doing vaccines today in Forth Valley.

Only 300 booked in all day for 11 vaccinators.  Under 25s who randomly turn up to be refused.

Yesterday there was a 55pct no show.

Mental.

That in itself is an absolute disgrace. 

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1 hour ago, mizfit said:

 


Is it possible the no-shows is because we’re at the age group of morons who believe conspiracy theories? That’s been my concern the further down the age groups they go.

 

Disagree, the vaccine center in Dunfermline was mobbed last night, the woman who went through the questions with me said they were using almost all the vaccines which is good.

It was mainly folk under 30 there when I was there as well so doubt conspiracy believers is linked to age.

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1 hour ago, Tynierose said:

My mate is doing vaccines today in Forth Valley.

Yesterday there was a 55pct no show.

Mental.

The government should have made it clear that people could opt-out on the letters they sent out. It might have encouraged more people to cancel appointments rather than just not bother turning up.

 

1 hour ago, mizfit said:

 


Is it possible the no-shows is because we’re at the age group of morons who believe conspiracy theories? 

 

It might be because the lower age groups look at the odds of being hospitalised, and of dying, and decide not to bother getting vaccinated.

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3 hours ago, TheScarf said:

Did anyone see Theresa May’s speech in the Commons on Covid? She’s been reading this thread IMO.

Yup - she nailed it, tbf.

3 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

The mood music is not good this morning for those of us who want a normal life back.

The Telegraph ....a paper I hate quoting, but one that does have links to the Tory government .....is reporting that if lockdown is not totally lifted within a relatively short window this summer, then it's very likely that we'll be under some kind of restrictions into next spring and beyond. 

And given that the Scottish government is instinctively more cautious than Westminster, this would seem to spell disaster for anyone desperate for true 'freedom'. 

At the same time, Europe and the USA...countries not riddled with the delta variant because they don't have leaders desperate for a trade deal with India, and had already banned flights from there at the same time that we were allowing 110 per week to come in.....are removing restrictions and opening up travel. 

The feeling that this nightmare is never going to end is overwhelming. 

I know it can sometimes feel that way, and I read that article, but I felt it was shit-stirring/trying to pressure the Government into opening up as soon as possible.

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3 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Yup - she nailed it, tbf.

I know it can sometimes feel that way, and I read that article, but I felt it was shit-stirring/trying to pressure the Government into opening up as soon as possible.

Yes, read that too.

Maybe they’re trying to get us to expect the worst so that what they do announce doesn’t sound too bad.

A well tried manoeuvre.

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10 minutes ago, Johnny van Axeldongen said:

The government should have made it clear that people could opt-out on the letters they sent out. It might have encouraged more people to cancel appointments rather than just not bother turning up.

I'm not convinced that would have made a huge difference. People will always take the path of least resistance.

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