Elixir Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: 72% is smaller percentage vaccinated than the UK. Blue states will be forced to take advantage of their greater vaccination rates on average than red states, because they have largely already opened up. In a similar way, tinpot administrations like the Scottish and UK Governments will be forced into a return to full pre-pandemic normality by other countries in Europe having the balls to do it first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Interesting also that the ‘data not dates’ approach has been totally jettisoned in favour of ‘just wait a few more weeks’. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Elixir said: Blue states will be forced to take advantage of their greater vaccination rates on average than red states, because they have largely already opened up. In a similar way, tinpot administrations like the Scottish and UK Governments will be forced into a return to full pre-pandemic normality by other countries in Europe having the balls to do it first. thats what gives me assurance, once real normality is widespread elsewhere then people , no matter how much they love the snp , will demand it here too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 Extending the current restrictions is hugely popular. There's been states in the US fully reopened for a while - packed baseball stadiums etc. People aren't going to 'demand' anything, at least not any time soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Extending the current restrictions is hugely popular. There's been states in the US fully reopened for a while - packed baseball stadiums etc. People aren't going to 'demand' anything, at least not any time soon. if that's true then wtf is wrong with this country? are we genetically predisposed to lovejoy ism ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Middle child has a lesser spotted invite to a birthday party! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: if that's true then wtf is wrong with this country? are we genetically predisposed to lovejoy ism ? The UK has a tradition or forelock-tuggery absolutely ingrained into its culture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Extending the current restrictions is hugely popular. There's been states in the US fully reopened for a while - packed baseball stadiums etc. People aren't going to 'demand' anything, at least not any time soon. Popular while furlough is still being paid, perhaps. There's already a sizeable portion of the population who have had enough, and the under 50's want it binned. Eventually there will come a tipping point. None of this theatre can be sustained once we have ~90% of adults fully vaxxed, and even before then (now?) it's not justifiable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I believe Johnson will go ahead with the reopening on 19th July and it’ll be up to Sturgeon to follow him or consign Scots to months of silly 8/10 person gathering rules. There is absolutely no need for a level that lies between Level 1 (or even Level 2, tbh) rules and normality. No Level 0 pish. Keep all areas where they are for just a few more weeks to roll out more vaccines and then go back to almost normality* on 19th July. *I’d be fine keeping masks and WFH a bit longer if they insist on retaining baseline measures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: if that's true then wtf is wrong with this country? are we genetically predisposed to lovejoy ism ? I’ve been saying this for over a year now and being pilloried for it. I went to an anti lockdown rally but, although there were a lot of likeminded folks in attendance, there were also quite a few anti vaccers and the usual anarchist mob. Put me off, I’m afraid. We are far too compliant with government diktat and this tendency is incredibly worrying. The media played a big part in this along with the Sturgeon daily updates which scared the wits out of all and sundry. Thankfully, all we get now is Bauld and Leitch who are increasingly derided. We need many more people of independent thought to challenge the perceived wisdom of the MSM. GBNews is hopefully a step in the right direction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 By the time you go any lower than level 1 people are going to give exactly zero fucks about any restrictions. The only thing to watch for will be limiting capacity or demanding social distancing, masks or some other shite at sports and large events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Level 0 is a load of useless nonsense . Just a pointless example of the SG trying Desperately to be different to Westminister. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc_smfc Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 18 hours ago, Stellaboz said: Does a PCR take any longer than a bog standard one? I have one Wednesday night for a flight on Friday. Normally get pre travel test results about 24 hours after. Places at the airport seem to be same day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I believe Johnson will go ahead with the reopening on 19th July and it’ll be up to Sturgeon to follow him or consign Scots to months of silly 8/10 person gathering rules. There is absolutely no need for a level that lies between Level 1 (or even Level 2, tbh) rules and normality. No Level 0 pish. Keep all areas where they are for just a few more weeks to roll out more vaccines and then go back to almost normality* on 19th July. *I’d be fine keeping masks and WFH a bit longer if they insist on retaining baseline measures. Health advice that its best to work from home, and peoples choice to wear masks is all well and good. There is absolutely no case for legally mandating these things though, and there will be much less of a case come July. The vaccine is a snowball rollong down hill. Every day there more 1st, more 2nd doses, and every day those recently jagged gain increased protection. Every one of those things, plus every prior infection results in another road block for the virus. These things must be rising at a tremendous rate. Any of these things being enshrined in law is utterly, utterly ridiculous at this point and the idea of a "level 0" and even worse, that we have still not had a single acknowledgement of intention to remove ALL legal covid restrictions/mandates is fucking outrageous. The fact that scotgov thinks it has the right to tell us, using legal powers taken on during a bona fide crisis, what normality is, is terrifying. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Donathan said: I believe Johnson will go ahead with the reopening on 19th July and it’ll be up to Sturgeon to follow him or consign Scots to months of silly 8/10 person gathering rules. There is absolutely no need for a level that lies between Level 1 (or even Level 2, tbh) rules and normality. No Level 0 pish. Keep all areas where they are for just a few more weeks to roll out more vaccines and then go back to almost normality* on 19th July. *I’d be fine keeping masks and WFH a bit longer if they insist on retaining baseline measures. i've started wearing a snood recently , its much easier to play the game with it than a mask with straps , keep it over the face when someones watching then just pull it back down round your neck when your in the clear , quite refreshing in shops etc actually , easy to pretend it's just slipped and you haven't noticed if called out rather than being accused of being a dick with no mask or mask round your chin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I wonder what Ms. von der Leyen thinks of this incoherent babbling from these two 'pro-EU parties'? Quote Posted at 15:28 Scottish Greens welcome travel rules relaxing delay Getty ImagesCopyright: Getty Images Back at the Scottish parliament, where MSPs are asking questions of First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, Greens co-leader Lorna Slater welcomes the "cautious" decision to delay further easing of restrictions. Ms Slater asks if the first minister agrees that non-essential international leisure travel should be the last thing that returns to normal. Ms Sturgeon says people should not travel overseas for non-essential reasons. The first minister speaks of her "intense frustration" at the lack of more robust border controls around the UK. She says we are paying a price for that now with the Delta variant. Ms Sturgeon insists that limiting international travel gave us the best chance of halting new variants and getting the situation back under control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Not sure if this has been shared, a BBC journalist being chased by anti-lockdown protesteters Really disturbing to see that. You get the feeling that if someone had tripped him or hit him then things could have escalated very quickly. Don’t wish the guy any harm, but instead of these protests being hidden by the media it needs to start being reported that this is the level of frustration people are feeling. Climate change protests, Sarah Everard, BLM etc are all over the media and rightly so, but they cannot be selective as they are in what they choose to report when this is a genuine concern as well to many. Edited June 15, 2021 by Abdul_Latif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Abdul_Latif said: Don’t wish the guy any harm, but instead of these protests being hidden by the media it needs to start being reported that this is the level of frustration people are feeling. Exhibit A: representing “frustrated” people. No further comment. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Exhibit A: representing “frustrated” people. No further comment. I’m fairness you could pick a face in any crowd to make a similar point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 It now sounds like the new normal/much greater normality/beyond level 0/whatever it’s called this week will not be in place until the middle of August. If we assume 3 weeks of level 0 from July 19th. That sounds like madness given that it will be just in time for schools going back. A cynic may say it’s an attempt to push the whole thing into the long grass of next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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