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Anyone else think we may see some sort of protests happening in six months time if we still have small limited gatherings at sporting events? 

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1 hour ago, Steven W said:

I'm saying Sturgeon should do what she thinks is best. She's now simply falling in line with whatever BJ does, even though I suspect she doesn't actually want to.

As an example, I don't for a second think she's comfortable allowing foreign travel in a couple of weeks.

 

There is absolutely no reason not to be "comfortable" allowing foreign travel to the nations. They have been chosen specifically based on their low prevalence of the virus, good vaccinations programmes and trustworthiness not to be fudging the figures. Heck, a number of the countries selected are zero covid places that won't even be letting Scots in.

 

Some may be concerned about "reintroducing new variants", but remember that new variants don't matter at all. The Kent variant mattered because of its transmission advantage, but that was in an unvaccinated population. Despite what utter scum like Devi Sridhar might say on twitter or on GMTV, the idea of "vaccine escape variants" simply doesn't exist. Our vaccines are made to target the COVID-19 spike protein which is independent of the variant. This risk simply does not exist in a well vaccinated populace.

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22 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Anyone else think we may see some sort of protests happening in six months time if we still have small limited gatherings at sporting events? 

Tbh no

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10 minutes ago, Donathan said:

There is absolutely no reason not to be "comfortable" allowing foreign travel to the nations. They have been chosen specifically based on their low prevalence of the virus, good vaccinations programmes and trustworthiness not to be fudging the figures. Heck, a number of the countries selected are zero covid places that won't even be letting Scots in.

Some may be concerned about "reintroducing new variants", but remember that new variants don't matter at all. The Kent variant mattered because of its transmission advantage, but that was in an unvaccinated population. Despite what utter scum like Devi Sridhar might say on twitter or on GMTV, the idea of "vaccine escape variants" simply doesn't exist. Our vaccines are made to target the COVID-19 spike protein which is independent of the variant. This risk simply does not exist in a well vaccinated populace.

I'm not convinced it had one tbh. It just so happened to be the most common strain at the time where respiratory viruses tend to spread more rapidly.

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53 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Anyone else think we may see some sort of protests happening in six months time if we still have small limited gatherings at sporting events? 

Hamilton and Livi fans can protest all they want.  They’ll still have small limited gatherings at their sporting events.

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I'm not convinced it had one tbh. It just so happened to be the most common strain at the time where respiratory viruses tend to spread more rapidly.



Good point. I guess the original data we got coming out of Italy showed an R0 of 2.5-3 and cases doubling twice per week under little to no restrictions, however this was in March where the weather is more similar to May in the UK (i.e. not a time when respiratory viruses have the upper hand)

So seeing an R number in the region of 4-5 (which obviously never actually happened, but if we adjust up to remove the impact of restrictions/behaviour...) over Christmas and into January here could just suggest that it’s seasonality rather than B117 being inherently more transmissible. Thankfully we will never get an apples to apples comparison because it had been nicely suppressed by March 2021.

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35 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Hamilton and Livi fans can protest all they want.  They’ll still have small limited gatherings at their sporting events.

😂👌😂👌

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9 hours ago, Left Back said:

Hamilton and Livi fans can protest all they want.  They’ll still have small limited gatherings at their sporting events.

Falkirk fans will pack out the streets cause we're a big club. and drown sturgeon in our tears

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57073312
 

One of the more sane articles seen in the MSM of late. Hopefully they keep this tone going rather than trying to scare people unnecessarily.

That Christina Pagel creature is constantly and unrelentingly negative though. Clearly fancies a bit of the profile others of her ilk have had.

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15 hours ago, oaksoft said:

Did you read either of those links before posting?

The first of them repeatedly uses the phrase "It's too early to tell" and the second talks about TWO police officers out of the hundreds on duty.

Super spreader events my arse. Jeezo.:lol:

It’s a fitba forum - I was not being serious, just having a cheeky dig at the policing of the Zombies. Next time I will put a 🤣 next to my links.

Now with the Zombies planning on more title winning mass celebrations. It’s time for the Scottish polis to take the necessary steps.

Bring out the dugs! 😆

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13 hours ago, Elixir said:

Sky are a joke outlet who report utter junk like this:

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That article headline is an absolute disgrace.

The article does NOT say that continued removal of restrictions would cause a peak.

It says that another peak could occur IF a new variant emerges. Well duh! Of course it could but that's not what the headline was describing.

It's pure clickbait.

 

Edited by oaksoft

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55 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57073312
 

One of the more sane articles seen in the MSM of late. Hopefully they keep this tone going rather than trying to scare people unnecessarily.

That Christina Pagel creature is constantly and unrelentingly negative though. Clearly fancies a bit of the profile others of her ilk have had.

Nick Triggle is very good, tbf. Definitely rooted in realism and knows this will pass, and that it's not the end times.

As has been said before, Pagel and the rest of iSAGE cult can be fired in the skip. They're sociopaths.

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Pagel was unsurprisingly fuming at the nightclub experiment in Liverpool, culminating in a fantastic lack of self awareness where she said that were her housemate attending, said housemate should first obtain her consent before going. A fine insight here into the arrogant mindset some of these people have. A total crackpot. 

She wants no further relaxations until September when all adults are double dosed, and will then no doubt announce winter is coming so we can't relax anything now because we just don't know! And then she wants the borders shut too becuae vaccinated people travelling is just too much of a risk. 

She's bumped herself ahead of Leitch and Sridhar in the queue to be fired into the Firth of Forth from Mons Meg. 

Edited by Michael W

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4 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

That article headline is an absolute disgrace.

The article does NOT say that continued removal of restrictions would cause a peak.

It says that another peak could occur IF a new variant emerges. Well duh! Of course it could but that's not what the headline was describing.

It's pure clickbait.

 

Yup, my only surprise was that it wasn't written by that Thomas Moore creature. Even Neil Ferguson is supremely confident now FFS.

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13 hours ago, D.V.T. said:

 

 


Don’t if it’s been mentioned but it turns out Moray don’t have cases of the Indian variant.

 

FFS. Makes you wonder what kind of person deliberately spreads misinformation about this sort of thing.

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20 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

That article headline is an absolute disgrace.

The article does NOT say that continued removal of restrictions would cause a peak.

It says that another peak could occur IF a new variant emerges. Well duh! Of course it could but that's not what the headline was describing.

It's pure clickbait.

 

Not how I read it  - the article says that a 3rd wave could be substantially  higher if a new variant appears, not that a 3rd wave would be dependant on it

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