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2 hours ago, craigkillie said:

It's very easy to "abandon" something you never had in the first place, Mr Tory shill that runs that wretched account.

Are we just pretending this wasn't something she was regularly trumpeting from summer last year until early spring this year? Or are we redefining what 'elimination' and/or 'Zero Covid' actually means again - a bit like Devi Sridhar?

1 hour ago, The Moonster said:

I mean, Tory twitter account linking you to a Tory newspaper to read a story about Nicola Sturgeon which is behind a pay wall, I can't see any ulterior motive with that tweet at all, just good ol' honest reporting. What does the article actually say?

It summarises what she was pressed about in yesterday's briefing - where she quite clearly climbed down from this position, short of actually admitting 'yes, we have abandoned elimination as our strategy'.

57 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Cheers. I'm not sure these journalists know what they're on about. An elimination strategy involves bringing case levels down to very low levels (like they are now) which makes small outbreaks more manageable. With vaccines meaning that these small outbreaks are not going to cause strain on the health services, there is no need for large scale restrictions across the nation. I think they might be confused between eradication and elimination tbh. No quote from Sturgeon there talks about her ditching any sort of strategy. 

 

46 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Where has she said she's ditched her strategy?

Her last line in that paragraph you've quoted quite literally says "Even if you don't quite achieve elimination it is the act of getting it as low as possible that keeps it under control". We've got it pretty low, she's opening up and vaccines are doing their bit that means we don't have to lockdown again. Seems pretty in line with her strategy. 

 

So have we 'eliminated' Covid-19 now, have we? Since cases are at 'very low levels'... as we conveniently head into northern hemisphere summer? This is revisionist nonsense. You can 'eliminate' viruses like polio and measles for which there are sterilising vaccines - you quite clearly cannot 'eliminate' Covid-19 in the same way you cannot 'eliminate' influenza, short of massive worldwide NPI's and restrictions on movement. Case numbers will rise when these are released, more so in winter months, but be inconsequential. The hospitalisations and deaths that follow will now be within healthcare capacity thanks to the (non-sterilising) vaccines breaking this link.

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7 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

... and was supposedly willing to have Covid injected on live TV (the actual virus, not a vaccine) to help prove it was nothing more than a scare story.

I look forward to that one being put to Chris Whitty at the inquiry! 

It is quite something when the cabinet sidelining the PM is the best course of action. 

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Are we just forgetting that Cummings is a snake, and also the fact the Scottish Government were going along hand in glove with the UK Government at this point?

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27 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Do you know what will happen as a result of this? Nothing.

Yup. This should bring the entire Government down.   

Obviously it won't. 

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Hearing of folk under 30 from all over the UK getting booked in for their vaccine is highly frustrating.  I was told last week Inverness are still doing the 40-50s.
NHS Highland appear to be making a c**t of it. I've been referred to Raigmore for mine as I'm one of the young c***s and the GP can't or won't do the Astrazeneca vaccine.

Called up yesterday as I've had the silent treatment for 6 weeks and they said they haven't been able to get to me yet as I live too far away. Clueless.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/may/26/uk-covid-news-live-dominic-cummings-boris-johnson-covid-evidence-pmqs#block-60ae16648f086d71cc15b0eb

Cummings says at one point cabinet secretary told PM to use TV interview to describe coronavirus as like chicken pox

Cummings says there was a meeting where Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary, told Boris Johnson that he should go on TV and explain that the herd immunity plan was like chicken pox parties.
Cummings says he told Sedwill not to use that analogy. Sedwill queried why. Cummings says he said coronavirus was not like chicken pox, it was spreading exponentially, and thousands of people were dying.
It's at times like these you realise just how brilliantly observed The Thick of It actually was !!!
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NHS Highland appear to be making a c**t of it. I've been referred to Raigmore for mine as I'm one of the young c***s and the GP can't or won't do the Astrazeneca vaccine.

Called up yesterday as I've had the silent treatment for 6 weeks and they said they haven't been able to get to me yet as I live too far away. Clueless.
Under 40s were turned away from a vaccination centre down here at the weekend due to failure in supply of alternative vaccines to AZ.
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