Thereisalight.. Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael W said: Agreed, particularly this bit: “I understand the significance of this day for Rangers fans but I am extremely disappointed that supporters have once again ignored Covid regulations and chosen to gather in large numbers in Glasgow. “The rules are the same for everyone and the evidence is clear – when large numbers of people gather in close proximity, there is an increased risk of transmission. Clearly this doesn't apply when said mass gathering is for a cause that Yousaf agrees with. It's a smart virus after all - only infects the gatherings you don't like. Ignoring of course the numerous examples of such gatherings over the last year for numerous reasons, none of which resulted in a case spike. By all means condemn the behaviour last night that lead to numerous arrests and investigations being launched as these were out of order and worthy of condemnation. As for the gathering itself, the "endangering lives" line is birthday caird pish doing nothing but playing to the galleries of Lovejoys. Lives were equally as endangered at the Palestine marches and the Deportation protest, not least considering the latter took place in the area with Scotland's worst rates of coronavirus infection. However this passed without comment from Yousaf. The inconsistency is rage-inducing, but not unexpected. More worrying is that the disorder on display will undoubtedly be used to bash all football fans with. Hes a moron. Somebody should call him out, not just on his hypocrisy but also the fact that studies have shown outdoor transmission accounts for less that 1% of covid cases 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Hes a moron. Somebody should call him out, not just on his hypocrisy but also the fact that studies have shown outdoor transmission accounts for less that 1% of covid cases Worst justice minister ever. That said the best thing would have been for the scottish government to open up ibrokes to 3/4 capacity and let them party there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chester Desmond said: Yes that's right, although they were due to reopen the following day anyway. It was more about the principle of the government having power to close places of worship. Churches certainly aren't permitted to be full currently, 2 metre distancing applies which severely restricts numbers. Are they actually having to turn people away because of this or is it a pointless “restriction”? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Here we go again, we're on the road again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Here we go again, we're on the road again [emoji445][emoji444]Prof Christine Tait-Burkard was also on saying she reckons minimum 2 or 3 weeks for Glasgow.Moray on the downward so maybe not for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I am not disputing the JCVI's expertise (the press conference with them where they completely tore apart the journalists was brilliant) but I wonder if, in hindsight, there should have been more focus vaccinating certain demographics and population centres. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I am not disputing the JCVI's expertise (the press conference with them where they completely tore apart the journalists was brilliant) but I wonder if, in hindsight, there should have been more focus vaccinating certain demographics and population centres.You would hope that they focus on vaccinations in Glasgow, shit for other areas if its at their expense but Glasgow is the largest population centre in Scotland and consistently near the top of the table for case rates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Aladdin said: You would hope that they focus on vaccinations in Glasgow, shit for other areas if its at their expense but Glasgow is the largest population centre in Scotland and consistently near the top of the table for case rates. There are additional vaccination centres being set up and appointments allocated to everyone over the age of 18 in the worst impacted post codes. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 There are additional vaccination centres being set up and appointments allocated to everyone over the age of 18 in the worst impacted post codes.I'm glad that that they are recognising vaccinations should help sort this, but its massively disappointing that Glasgow is, yet again, being left with restrictions worse than literally everywhere else for an indefinite period of time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Hes a moron. Somebody should call him out, not just on his hypocrisy but also the fact that studies have shown outdoor transmission accounts for less that 1% of covid casesThis 1% figure is useful in terms of showing that outdoor transmission is less likely than indoor transmission, but it was computed at a time when outdoor gatherings were also banned. It's therefore not really a figure that can be applied in any meaningful way to large outdoor gatherings like that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I see the latest reports indicate the Indian variety might not be the end of humanity after all. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I see the latest reports indicate the Indian variety might not be the end of humanity after all.Know what I was wondering as I read thr BBC report just there, with Clammy Hancock... The variant chat seems like its really conveniently timed to cover for an obvious increase in viral circulation as restrictions loosen. Are the country so terrified of seeing cases inevitably increase as a result of increased mixing of people that they have to be provided with a bogeyman type explanation, which is then downplayed in the days that follow? It all seems rather formulaic now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, super_carson said: 1 hour ago, Marshmallo said: There are additional vaccination centres being set up and appointments allocated to everyone over the age of 18 in the worst impacted post codes. I'm glad that that they are recognising vaccinations should help sort this, but its massively disappointing that Glasgow is, yet again, being left with restrictions worse than literally everywhere else for an indefinite period of time. what restrictions are there on Glasgow that are not imposed on Moray? Maybe Glasgow citizens might consider congruating in their thousand to twice celebate a team winning at fitba if they want to reach level 2 -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Desmond Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Left Back said: Are they actually having to turn people away because of this or is it a pointless “restriction”? I couldn't really say with any certainty. I know of RC churches which have put on extra masses at the weekends to allow folk to attend. If they hadn't then yes, essentially they would be turning people away. Others take different approaches. I think most operate booking systems, although not all, which would mean you're not going to see queues of people beating down the doors. A lot have also set up live streaming for those unable to attend in person. It's also worth considering that the people most likely to attend religious services regularly tend to be older folk who'd be the least likely to be confident about going out and gathering indoors over the last year or so, which will have had an affect on demand for places (although anecdotally this seems to be changing now with the confidence given by vaccines). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, craigkillie said: This 1% figure is useful in terms of showing that outdoor transmission is less likely than indoor transmission, but it was computed at a time when outdoor gatherings were also banned. It's therefore not really a figure that can be applied in any meaningful way to large outdoor gatherings like that one. Theres been large outdoor gatherings for over a year now. BLM protests/statue wars. Beach gatherings, Liverpool title win, Rangers back in March, Sarah Everard vigils etc. None has resulted in any danger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 The vast majority of people likely to die from this have been vaccinated now.If you've decided to not get vaccinated then that's up to you.People who haven't been vaccinated might get a bit ill but will likely recover just fine.Time to get restrictions in the bin IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Desmond Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Maybe Glasgow citizens might consider congruating in their thousand to twice celebate a team winning at fitba if they want to reach level 2 That's a bit nasty isn't it pal? There's thousands of us here who've followed the rules all the way through and who are really suffering now. There's no need to be unpleasant like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 what restrictions are there on Glasgow that are not imposed on Moray? Maybe Glasgow citizens might consider congruating in their thousand to twice celebate a team winning at fitba if they want to reach level 2Qualifying this as anecdotal, but Larbert train station car park was the busiest I have seen it since the pandemic began yesterday, and I seen folk who had obviously just came back off a train decked out in Rangers gear in steady streams after 8 at night. I live very near the station. So you cant blame "the people of Glasgow" for that. Thats before you get into the obvious fact that these restrictions were announced on Friday, outdoor transmission is pie in the sky, and numerous other such gatherings over the last year have shown this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Qualifying this as anecdotal, but Larbert train station car park was the busiest I have seen it since the pandemic began yesterday, and I seen folk who had obviously just came back off a train decked out in Rangers gear in steady streams after 8 at night. I live very near the station. So you cant blame "the people of Glasgow" for that. Thats before you get into the obvious fact that these restrictions were announced on Friday, outdoor transmission is pie in the sky, and numerous other such gatherings over the last year have shown this. They weren’t. The current restrictions Glasgow is under have been in place for weeks/months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chester Desmond said: That's a bit nasty isn't it pal? There's thousands of us here who've followed the rules all the way through and who are really suffering now. There's no need to be unpleasant like that. actually you are probably right and as soon as posted I thought its not fair to tar all with same brush. However, its not incorrect to say that actions of those on the streets yesterday do not help the situation that Glasgwo finds itself in....irresepctive of who they support -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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