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3 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

That right there is the problem, people accepting them to get back to some "normality". There is absolutely no need for domestic passports. They're an infringement on peoples rights and there is nothing "normal" about that. Not everyone has a smart phone, not everyone wants the vaccine due to whatever reason, be it religious/ethnicity reasons etc. The shrugging of the shoulders and accepting it is sad indictment 

Completely agree mate but unfortunately, and I try not to just bring everything back to Thatcher and Reagan but f**k it it's completely correct, the idea of collective action and solidarity with each other for a better world has been all but killed off and the rise of the individual over the last forty years has dominated everything.

We have never been so callous and selfish, and therefore the pockets of people who might want to stand up to the obviously problematic vaccine passports will just be completely shunned from society by the 99%.

That's the case and, given that, I won't be taking some big stand of boycotting or whatever else. You're right, it is a sad indictment, but I genuinely can't see an alternative when individualism runs so rampantly in this country and throughout the West.

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11 hours ago, Snafu said:

EdinburghLive continuing with their outrage at people out enjoying themselves yesterday.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/crowds-flock-edinburghs-portobello-beach-20316372

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/thousands-gather-edinburgh-meadows-breaching-20317343

F*** off, people have had an absolute shite time of it and we have been in lockdown for 3 months, the sun came out timely for Friday and Saturday and they needed to get outside and get some vitamin D. Also EdinburghLive not understanding the meaning of stay local in the Portobello article, the majority of these people will have come from the same area. These articles give the wrong impression, the angle of the photo from Portobello gives the impression of no social distancing, I can see social distancing.

General views of the Public out enjoying the nice weather on Easter Friday at Portobello Beach near Edinburgh

People enjoy Easter weekend on Portobello beach in Edinburgh

Mental heath affects your well being and your physical health, this will probably gave a lot of people a big lift and a chance to get away from the house. Looking at the photos it seems more like an average cross section of ages you would find anywhere on a nice day and they are behaving themselves, I cant see why anyone's knickers are getting in a twist over this.

Has anyone noticed that the huge jump in cases expected from the thousands of Rangers fans celebrating the league title never happened and was ignored when they realised the case numbers were still falling?

Why does our media want us to hide under our beds forever?

 

Quite a few fatties in those pics. 

I am glad they are out and should be made to walk up and down to shift some weight as we know now overweight people are at more risk

 

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I never downloaded the test and protect app because I knew it was run by a bunch of charlatans. I imagine the vaccine app will be the same. 

Good luck to all the old dears who like to go to strictly come dancing shows, half of them are 75+ and I doubt could see to work a smart phone 

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13 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

Completely agree mate but unfortunately, and I try not to just bring everything back to Thatcher and Reagan but f**k it it's completely correct, the idea of collective action and solidarity with each other for a better world has been all but killed off and the rise of the individual over the last forty years has dominated everything.

We have never been so callous and selfish, and therefore the pockets of people who might want to stand up to the obviously problematic vaccine passports will just be completely shunned from society by the 99%.

That's the case and, given that, I won't be taking some big stand of boycotting or whatever else. You're right, it is a sad indictment, but I genuinely can't see an alternative when individualism runs so rampantly in this country and throughout the West.

Good man.  Mine and Connolly’s pensions are riding on this.

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16 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

That right there is the problem, people accepting them to get back to some "normality". There is absolutely no need for domestic passports. They're an infringement on peoples rights and there is nothing "normal" about that. Not everyone has a smart phone, not everyone wants the vaccine due to whatever reason, be it religious/ethnicity reasons etc. The shrugging of the shoulders and accepting it is sad indictment 

No, that's the reality of what would happen if they were introduced,given your desperation to get out I'd suspect you'd have yours far quicker than myself. 

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1 minute ago, ayrmad said:

No, that's the reality of what would happen if they were introduced,given your desperation to get out I'd suspect you'd have yours far quicker than myself. 

I have a smart phone but I dont even have what's app etc, it's a shitty phone and I dint even have room to download any more apps. Not everybody even has a smart phone ffs, are we just going to let them be outsiders never mind those of the BAME community who are abstaining from vaccination. Why should these people be discriminated against through something that is supposedly a choice

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I've said it enough times but if this allows the borderline comatose majority of this country to continue to watch the X Factor and get a Chinese delivered while at the same time bringing some sort of negative consequences to "scum" then they'll back vaccine passports to the hilt.

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30 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/covid-holidays-boris-johnson-travel-b1826155.html

So do we think we'll largely follow the same roadmap for International travel as England or create a mess with differing rules?  We all know NS likes to harp on about regretting allowing travel last year and how she won't make the same mistake again, but what does that mean exactly? it's a big gamble playing hard ball with peoples summer holidays with an election coming up.

They’ll try a harder line but they’ll look like dicks. Johnson should just remind them that border policy is reserved (and thankfully this is pretty much one of the only scenarios where im glad it is). Theyve already lost one legal battle I sincerely doubt they’d win another. 

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5 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I have a smart phone but I dont even have what's app etc, it's a shitty phone and I dint even have room to download any more apps. Not everybody even has a smart phone ffs, are we just going to let them be outsiders never mind those of the BAME community who are abstaining from vaccination. Why should these people be discriminated against through something that is supposedly a choice

Get out there and fight then, I'm only telling you what I think will happen and you'll upgrade your phone quick enough if its required.

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2 hours ago, Detournement said:

Exactly.

Anyone who actually supports giving a hard right Tory government (or even the SNP curtain twitchers) a huge digital infrastructure with which to discriminate against any group they choose to harrass is either as equally hard right or thick as mince.

If you think that Apps, QR codes and databases aren't going to be used to control and discipline asylum seekers, benefit claimants, travellers or political activists then you are very naive. We live in a state which sends policemen to rape animal rights activists, created the hostile environment for immigrants and hounded thousands of disabled people to death on the false pretext of caring about the deficit. A good example of immediate overreach is anti terror laws being used to justify councils putting families applying for school places under surveillance. Once these powers are in place they only increase in scope.

“sending policemen to rape animal rights activists”!

You need to go and lie down. That is the post of a lunatic.

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4 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

“sending policemen to rape animal rights activists”!

You need to go and lie down. That is the post of a lunatic.

It's a bit glibly phrased but like...the recently-passed Spycops Bill does allow certain officers to rape and kill without risk of prosecution?

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1 minute ago, HibsFan said:

It's a bit glibly phrased but like...the recently-passed Spycops Bill does allow certain officers to rape and kill without risk of prosecution?

Also this literally happened https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children-activists

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23 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I never downloaded the test and protect app because I knew it was run by a bunch of charlatans. I imagine the vaccine app will be the same. 

Good luck to all the old dears who like to go to strictly come dancing shows, half of them are 75+ and I doubt could see to work a smart phone 

The NHS Scotland test and protect app was developed by Capgemini, who have had the NHS Scotland IT contract for almost 10 years.  I work for Capgemini and there are more than 250,000 employees in more than 50 countries, they are most definitely not a bunch of  charlatans as they would never have got to that size of company if they were charlatans.  The Westminster Government may have given a contract to a bunch of charlatans, but the same can't be said in Scotland.

https://www.capgemini.com/gb-en/2020/09/working-on-scotlands-contact-tracing-system/

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23 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

They’ll try a harder line but they’ll look like dicks. Johnson should just remind them that border policy is reserved (and thankfully this is pretty much one of the only scenarios where im glad it is). Theyve already lost one legal battle I sincerely doubt they’d win another. 

Agree.  This is the one area where I think a UK approach is required.  Agree a position between the 4 nations so they are all on the same page, and implement it. No grandstanding.

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8 minutes ago, munro76 said:

The NHS Scotland test and protect app was developed by Capgemini, who have had the NHS Scotland IT contract for almost 10 years.  I work for Capgemini and there are more than 250,000 employees in more than 50 countries, they are most definitely not a bunch of  charlatans as they would never have got to that size of company if they were charlatans.  The Westminster Government may have given a contract to a bunch of charlatans, but the same can't be said in Scotland.

https://www.capgemini.com/gb-en/2020/09/working-on-scotlands-contact-tracing-system/

But it does not work if you stay in a block of flats as it cannot determine between floors and through walls. 

I quickly removed it when the fault was reported and its never been fixed.

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56 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

It must be a very old trick the Tories have played tbf. Tell the people they have an enemy then set yourself up as the one to beat them. By f**k has it worked though, better than even those devious vermin could have imagined.

Although at least back in the day, "working class tories" genuinely did have f**k all, and the party could convince them that was because of immigrants/commies/corrupt unions etc.

Nowadays, it's far pettier and weirder. These "working class tories" are far more likely to be homeowners who don't live in the big cities. They don't even mind getting shafted themselves as long as they know somebody else is getting shafted harder. If they have blue hair and are working a bar job in their third language (the metropolitan elite who are out of touch with the common man!!!) then even better.

That's why I find it laughable to suggest that left wing parties have sold out the working class, when in fact many of the "working class" are now firmly lower middle class in terms of homeownership and wages, and will happily vote Tory if it protects the value of their poorly-constructed new build and its astroturfed garden out the back.

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2 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

But it does not work if you stay in a block of flats as it cannot determine between floors and through walls. 

I quickly removed it when the fault was reported and its never been fixed.

Depends what kind of flat you live in, if you have thick walls then the Bluetooth signal won't get through.

It's not a perfect app but I'm not sure how it could be fixed in a cost effective way.

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