Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[gav-ffc]

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• 237 new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 23,580 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.2% of these were positive
• 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 
• 16 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 115 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 2,708,691 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 661,975 have received their second dose

Cigars ready.

[Scosha]

Positivity of 1.2% is that our lowest since last year? Good to see a chunk out of ICU too. We *could* be looking at having 1 or 2 in ICU in a couple weeks time. 

[gav-ffc]

2 minutes ago, Scosha said:

Positivity of 1.2% is that our lowest since last year? Good to see a chunk out of ICU too. We *could* be looking at having 1 or 2 in ICU in a couple weeks time. 

Since around September for sure.

[Michael W]

5 minutes ago, gav-ffc said:

Cigars ready.

 

[superbigal]

On 14/04/2021 at 14:29, superbigal said:

 

Daily Cases Update:  Another decent day as we have total cases down 1.83% to 1874, Positivity down to 1.6% and infections down to 34.3 per 100K 

Scotland now only has 5 councils that are above all known parameters of entering level 2 (If not level 1 or 0) as opposed to level 3 in 10 days. However we all know that is not going to happen.

Northern Ireland now on the increase.  No idea if anything newsworthy going on there. As is Wales & England.  In seriousness be interesting to plot the cases as restrictions ease.

Brilliant efforts at the foot of my table in Ayrshire, Dunbartonshire, P&K, Angus & East Lothian

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Total Cases 7 days from 6th April to 12th April  were  1909 now 1874 down 1.83%. Positivity was 1.7% now 1.6%.   Cases per 100k were 34.9 now 34.3

Home Nations Daily update:  UK Average  27.9 to 28.6 up 2.51%, England 27.4 to 28.2 up 2.92%,  Wales  18.0 to 18.3 up 1.67%, Northern Ireland 30.4 to 33.1 up 8.88% 

European (Above 2 Million Population) : Sweden 357 to 428, Poland  391 to 355,  Serbia 414 to 352,  France 293 to 352, Hungary 422 to 350,

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

Under 100 Club could do better club

Clackmannanshire  89.3 to 81.5  Dropping quickly again

North Lanarkshire   63.3 to 62.1  

Glasgow City 59.4 to 59.1  

Renfrewshire  58.1 to 58.6

Moray 45.9 to 51.1   Teuchters at it

Fife  47.9 to 49.8     

West Lothian 55.2 to 49.7 Great day over 10% drop

Falkirk  47.2 to 46.0

Dundee City    44.9 to 42.2

East Renfrewshire   38.7 to 41.9 

South Lanarkshire 39.6 to 41.2

Stirling   41.4 to 39.3

Under Scottish Average club 34.3

Aberdeen City 33.2 to 31.5

East Ayrshire  37.7 to 29.5  Hurtling towards rest of Ayrshire down over 20%

West Dunbartonshire  27.0 to 24.7 Another great day near 10% fall

East Dunbartonshire  26.7 to 23.9 Great day 10% fall

Winchester Club Sub 20.0 but still no prospect of level 2 for 5 weeks club

North Ayrshire  18.6 to 20.0

City Of Edinburgh  19.1 to 19.2

Inverclyde  18.0 to 18.0 

Perth & Kinross  20.4 to 17.8 Brilliant join the exclusive Winchester club

Aberdeenshire   17.2 to 16.8

East Lothian  18.7 to 14.0  Astonishing down another 25%

Shetland Islands  13.1 to 13.1 

Highlands    11.0 to 12.3 

South Ayrshire   14.2 to 10.7   Astonishing down another near 25%

Angus 12.9 to 9.5  Brilliant into single figures down over 25%

Midlothian  8.7 to 8.7  

Argyll & Bute  7.0 to 7.0

Dumfries & Galloway  3.4 to 4.0  

Scottish  Borders   2.6 to 2.6

Western Isles   0.0 to 0.0

Orkney Island  0.0 to 0.0  

Edited April 15, 2021 by superbigal

[Ross.]

15 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:

My work had an employee engagement session/horror show this morning on Teams. They appear to be using Covid (including all the favourite cliches of variants, mutations (and someone literally said "we just don't know" at one point) to justify a series of god-awful working from home measures.  I genuinely can't wait until they try to force these measures on staff, having ignored their concerns and massively f**k it up before having some sort of humiliating climbdown. Utter shite. 

I’m hoping we can use the last year as a stick to beat my employer with to ensure some level of working from home is the normal in future. 2 days in the office, 3 at home would be ideal. If they want us back in the office full time, they better have some serious justification for it.

[mizfit]

Now Perthshire is in the 17.8 per 100,000 infection rate I now hereby declare a return to pints this weekend.

[Elixir]

3 hours ago, super_carson said:

https://www.scotsman.com/health/scotland-should-prepare-for-third-wave-of-covid-in-winter-says-epidemiologist-3200406

Read this article in the Scotsman yesterday, and it makes for interesting reading. There's a fair bit about why elimination is essentially nonsense, and a recognition that it will shift to a seasonal virus that possibly will cause an increase in hospital cases and how that can be mitigated. Not a fan of Bauld talking about reintroducing mitigating measures. If it's simple things like businesses being incentivised to offer working from home as an option, increased awareness around things like hand hygiene and advisory social distancing, then fair enough.  What it does read as (although the Scotsman is quite negative generally) is like some of these experts believe that lockdowns and restrictions should become the norm for tackling season respiratory infections

Governments, however, may find imposing restrictions and lockdowns in the winter months a hard-sell to the wider public and businesses and may decide these measures impose greater harm than across society than covid will.  If the vaccines continue to work as it looks like they are I can't see how this would become a realistic scenario, especially if boosters are given to the most vulnerable to combat any variants that actually do pose a risk to vaccination.  

It was very interesting that Woolhouse talks about transmission occurring in care homes and hospitals, though.   That, to me, seems to be a key point and that it may also undermine the point behind lockdowns. Surely it should be being monitored more accurately where someone is catching covid.  For example, if the bulk of transmission occurs inside a hospital as community rates fall to a negligible level then something needs to be done to prevent that happening in those settings, rather than enforcing restrictions on the rest of society that wouldn't really have any impact in hospitals.

Remember that public health freaks have always droned on about what the public 'must do' regarding all aspects of life. That's fine, so long as we're free to ignore it if we so choose. The only metric that matters is that when hospitalisations and deaths consistently remain at pre-pandemic levels, there is no longer any restrictions in law. That includes in some winters where we might see 25,000+ deaths from influenza/coronavirus - something we never even used to bat an eyelid at before. Sadly, I think it will take many years for the psychological experience of this to be forgotten about by many people, who simply can't quantify risk or process that 1,500 people die in the UK every single day even when there isn't a pandemic.

[Lyle Lanley]

49 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

If it specifically says European games and not league games, then does that not imply it's for away tickets?

Ballot for ST holders for European games if there's any limited capacity. Not expecting away fans at games for a while yet. 

[craigkillie]

8 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Ballot for ST holders for European games if there's any limited capacity. Not expecting away fans at games for a while yet. 

I think you're misinterpreting my point here. If the season ticket information only spoke about a ballot for European games, but not league games, that would imply that the issues only relate to matches Europe.

[Elixir]

Of course, this is largely being reported as 'THOUSANDS STILL TESTING POSITIVE FOR CORONAVIRUS DESPITE VACCINATION'.

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:

What are you expecting her to say? The Level 0 "utopia" is already out there.  That is clearly the SG's vision of "Greater domestic normality" as of today. It's ridiculous, but that's been covered.

The real question should be how they will calculate the risk of a variant that is capable of evading the vaccine to the extent they cannot prevent severe illness or death occurring, and what level of risk must this fall below before they will prevent the destruction of the Scottish Aviation and Tourism industry by lifting international travel restrictions.

Do you think they understand that a new variant is just as likely to mutate between two people in Scotland as it is from abroad?

[effeffsee_the2nd]

Remember that public health freaks have always droned on about what the public 'must do' regarding all aspects of life. That's fine, so long as we're free to ignore it if we so choose. The only metric that matters is that when hospitalisations and deaths consistently remain at pre-pandemic levels, there is no longer any restrictions in law. That includes in some winters where we might see 25,000+ deaths from influenza/coronavirus - something we never even used to bat an eyelid at before. Sadly, I think it will take many years for the psychological experience of this to be forgotten about by many people, who simply can't quantify risk or process that 1,500 people die in the UK every single day even when there isn't a pandemic.

I get that what i am about to say sounds callous but so be it, the messaging from politicians like sturgeon about each death being an individual tragedy ( for the family sure ) is somewhat disingenuous, we’re not talking about a war or natural disaster where the fatalities are mostly healthy young people. A great many of those who passed were going to die the next time they got sick , granted that may have been quicker than it otherwise would have been but the sad fact is the majority were elderly and somewhat unwell.

[ayrmad]

2 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

people have always been fuckin cranks man, remeber there used to be ( maybe still is) a c**t who went round taking pictures of badly parked cars and posting them on a dedicated facebook page, absolute 40 year old virgin behavior, nothing to do with fear of the virus, just another busy body finding an excuse to act all holier than thou

Some of those efforts are very funny, 6 parking spaces at the back of a car park with one car straddling the line, so ridiculous it's funny. 

[101]

2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Do you think they understand that a new variant is just as likely to mutate between two people in Scotland as it is from abroad?

But we have less virus in circulation therefore the risk of variants being established here is much lower than countries with much higher levels of circulation.

That said we also will shortly have all adults with a base level of immunity and an incredibly resilient health service and established test and protect system

Thereforere the overall risk is already low and international travel shouldn't be held back save some choice examples, Brazil for one.

[Marshmallo]

17 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Do you think they understand that a new variant is just as likely to mutate between two people in Scotland as it is from abroad?

Far be it from me to defend the "variant~~!!~~" crowd, but that would be true on an individual level (ie it is as likely between two set individuals in Scotland as two set individuals in India, for example), but when you open borders you are exposing yourself to magnitudes more people, so greater chance of multiple and/or a more dangerous variant.

That's not to say I agree with never letting anyone go somewhere ever again btw.

[s_dog]

11 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Do you think they understand that a new variant is just as likely to mutate between two people in Scotland as it is from abroad?

No because there is currently at fairly medium level of community transmission in Scotland, whereas is much of mainland Europe it's high. And the lower the virus rates, the less chance there is for it to mutate. 

[TheScarf]

[coprolite]

22 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Do you think they understand that a new variant is just as likely to mutate between two people in Scotland as it is from abroad?

Do you think two virulent  mutant strains would be better than one? 

[Wee Bully]

23 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

 

I get that what i am about to say sounds callous but so be it, the messaging from politicians like sturgeon about each death being an individual tragedy ( for the family sure ) is somewhat disingenuous, we’re not talking about a war or natural disaster where the fatalities are mostly healthy young people. A great many of those who passed were going to die the next time they got sick , granted that may have been quicker than it otherwise would have been but the sad fact is the majority were elderly and somewhat unwell.

 

Yes, it is callous.  What you are saying is:

Young people = valuable

Old people = expendable

Some may have been towards the end of their lives, but many had a good number of years ahead of them.  Take a look at yourself.