Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[DeeTillEhDeh 6,917]

Like elimimation?

Oh I agree with you that zero covid is nonsense but that's not what I was talking about Mr This Is Over As A Public Health Crisis.

[Melanius Mullarkey 24,109]

17 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

What to heck is Paddy Harvie on here lads?

Another magee alias.

[EH75 222]

15 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Be some delicious melt downs from Helen Lovejoy types if SD is binned on the 17th of May.

What's with the possible restrictions on weddings in step 4? No legal limits on social contacts and nightclubs can re open but weddings still need to be restricted? Doesn't affect me but seems a bit random. 

Also are we presuming masks will still be required in stage 4? Good luck with that in nightclubs. 

[Bairnardo 30,454]

3 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:

6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Are people that desperate to end restrictions that they believe this fucking codswallop from Johnson?

 

Yes

Snap. Even the words of Boris Johnson have positively affected my mood and outlook today. That's really fucking saying something.

For me, and theres a possible element of hope rather than expectation, that what we seen today is the first break from under the cover of "we just don't know....." bullshit around the vaccines. Getting out in front of the data making it blindingly obvious to all that the vaccines are racing ahead of any half arsed measures in place in terms of virus suppression.

[Elixir 3,644]

That Thomas Moore weirdo on Sky literally just said the vaccines 'aren't that good', essentially because they don't provide total sterilising immunity.

Another one who knows he'll be even more of an irrelevance in the near future.

[madwullie 2,872]

10 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Are people that desperate to end restrictions that they believe this fucking codswallop from Johnson?
 

Some are actually thinking about voting for his party because they tell them what they want to hear (then don't bother doing it) 

[EH75 222]

Just now, madwullie said:

Some are actually thinking about voting for his party because they tell them what they want to hear (then don't bother doing it) 

Is that not basically how politics works? 

[Todd_is_God 3,664]

5 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

7 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Like elimimation?

Oh I agree with you that zero covid is nonsense but that's not what I was talking about Mr This Is Over As A Public Health Crisis.

^^^ raging it's over IMO

[101 3,798]

6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

22 minutes ago, 101 said:

I think she would be mad to suggest 21st June, if I was her I would say July for normality. Boris is promising a lot but if the buy in drops for vaccinations then there is no chance you could let all restrictions go. I think he needed a big head line to bury the fact his fiance appears to be running the country and the health minister broke the law.
NS would be far better to say we need X number in ICU and X in hospitals and we can do X if it declines by X we can move it X we therefore expect with some caution and 80% vaccine take up we can ditch restrictions by X (Late July) 

Agreed - an actual measure and not some fantasy bullshit.

It has to be something that's solid Boris' review to end social distancing before more than 2 households can meet up in doors seems nonsensical to me.

5 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Like elimimation?

Didn't mean to quote you sorry 

3 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said:

Bang on...,

Nicola Sturgeon is gonna offer hee haw tommorow,it will be a roadmap out of this at least a month behind Johnson's.

Theres a Holyrood election on the 6th of May and she ain't gonna go tonto until thats out of the way....

It will be minimal stuff over March/April.

Tbh a month behind Boris is about where I expect things to actually work, he will regret his 21st of June date.

[Mr Tourette 150]

Weirdly she just said the lockdown order is currently in place to 31 March. I thought it wasn't extended beyond 28 Feb at the last review pending tomorrows statement but that does not appear to be the case.

Can forget anything bar schools until well into April (probably post Easter school holidays) if that's the case. Non essential retail late April then beer gardens May pubs indoors June / July would be the script on that timeline

For lockdown order until March 31st, read “furlough available until 31st March”

[101 3,798]

2 minutes ago, EH75 said:

What's with the possible restrictions on weddings in step 4? No legal limits on social contacts and nightclubs can re open but weddings still need to be restricted? Doesn't affect me but seems a bit random. 

Also are we presuming masks will still be required in stage 4? Good luck with that in nightclubs. 

Boris has a wedding he's been putting off, he can say to Carrie that it's not safe for a few more months.

[101 3,798]

3 minutes ago, Elixir said:

That Thomas Moore weirdo on Sky literally just said the vaccines 'aren't that good', essentially because they don't provide total sterilising immunity.

Another one who knows he'll be even more of an irrelevance in the near future.

Isn't he dead?

[Todd_is_God 3,664]

Just now, Mr Tourette said:

For lockdown order until March 31st, read “furlough available until 31st March”

 

It's available until April 30th, though.

[lithgierose 579]

2 hours ago, bairn88 said:

That "there will be no zero covid" line almost brought a tear to my eye. Finally, sense. I basically despise everything the tories stand for but Boris seems to have gotten that spot on. Cautious reopening but an acknowledgement that life has to be worth living again. 

Also, 10k in stadiums from May. 

A bit like zero flu? 

[effeffsee_the2nd 805]

Snap. Even the words of Boris Johnson have positively affected my mood and outlook today. That's really fucking saying something.
For me, and theres a possible element of hope rather than expectation, that what we seen today is the first break from under the cover of "we just don't know....." bullshit around the vaccines. Getting out in front of the data making it blindingly obvious to all that the vaccines are racing ahead of any half arsed measures in place in terms of virus suppression.

For the first time ever we haven’t been given this post covid new normal bollox . Thank f**k indeed

[No_Problemo 1,539]

I don’t see how this aspect isn’t cautious tbh. There is no justification whatsoever for us being a month or any period of time behind any of this. 
 

If this isn’t cautious, I would be scared of what a cautious approach looked like. Nothing until June...

[Tynierose 18,632]

Looks like a few posters on here are going to be absolutely beelin if the plans by Bojo actually work out alright.   I think we have all suffered enough that irrespective of who it is offering hope and a plan we just want to get back to normality and for it to work as soon as possible.   It's beyond politics for me and for the majority of a country that have suffered over a year of disruption to their lifes.   Johnson may well be wrong, hell he usually is but by christ I hope his plans are right this time.   The more positive tweets coming for Leitch et al today are also encouraging in relation to the vaccines and hospitalisations.

Vaccines are the key quite simply and if we keep firing them out and we continue to see the excellent results then we will get there thankfully.

Edited February 22 by Tynierose

[madwullie 2,872]

6 minutes ago, EH75 said:

Is that not basically how politics works? 

Believe it or not, up till about 5 years ago, when politicians lied they generally were accountable for it, some even ended up fired or forced to resign. Not all of them granted, but it was rare someone would lie with impunity, be believed, lie some more, get voted in, lie even more, get found out, lie yet more, and then people would then fall over themselves to believe the latest bullshit. 

Wild so many great minds keep falling for it 🤷‍♂️ 

[Billy Jean King 2,164]

For lockdown order until March 31st, read “furlough available until 31st March”

Furlough already extends to 30 April and will most likely be extended still in next week's budget.

[D.A.F.C 6,465]

Feel in a good mood because of what was said but genuinely think that putting dates on when things will happen is so stupid. What if people go and book holidays or businesses make plans only for another round of restrictions to come in?

It's like they want people to spend regardless of what happens like Christmas. I'm very sceptical, it will get better but it can't be as black and white as what BJ is saying.