The Moonster Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Level one is less than 20 cases, Level zero being "close to zero". I'd say under 20 cases per ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE is pretty fucking close to zero. I am logging off now as I need to go and find my head. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 The Scottish government paid absolutely no attention to their own guidance when assigning councils to bands last time. It's frankly terrifying that they have stricter restrictions they are looking to follow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: Looks like furlough is going to be extended again, though nothing said about duration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56247455 Probably going to be needed since the levels and tiers are going to take a massive shit on the hospitality and leisure sectors. The good feeling of the last week has evaporated for me. I think I read another article on the BBC this morning that said 30th June was the new rumoured end date. ETA: Here it is - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56207194 Edited March 2, 2021 by super_carson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: I'm desperately trying to give myself some hope that they're just being cautious and waiting to find out what a rip-roaring c**t the tousled-hair w****r makes down south. Same. Think I'll fire a wee email off to my (SNP) MSP to ask why we're tightening restrictions when we have a vaccine that is working and all of our most vulnerable citizens have already had it. Would encourage other people to do the same, this needs significant push back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I also don't see how this is feasible when England is going in a completely different direction. Let's see how people in Scotland react when England has virtually no restrictions and is allowing foreign travel, and half of Scotland is still locked down in Level 3 because we have 51 cases per 100K and virtually no deaths. This is verging on insanity. This thread has no shortage of folk giving it, why would scotgov want to keep restrictions longer than neccessary, makes no sense etc etc.I would ask at this point, if the government is actively choosing a metric that carries less relevance by the day, to maintain tighter restrictions in Scotland, despite our open border with England, what would they call that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: Looks like furlough is going to be extended again, though nothing said about duration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56247455 Probably going to be needed since the levels and tiers are going to take a massive shit on the hospitality and leisure sectors. The good feeling of the last week has evaporated for me. A furlough extension gives the SG the excuse it needs to put in further wartime levels of restrictions. They want to kick this can as far down the road as they can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Gaz said: I'm desperately trying to give myself some hope that they're just being cautious and waiting to find out what a rip-roaring c**t the tousled-hair w****r makes down south. The schools free-for-all in England next week could be where it all goes Pete Tong for him again. Every ad break on the radio yesterday had a UK Gov propaganda advert talking about how safe schools are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: 2 hours ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Can’t tell if you are being dense or actively ignoring the point. When we get to the point of easing restrictions, cases will undoubtedly rocket up amongst the younger unvaccinated population, despite it likely having next to no impact on hospital and death rates, so if we base anything on case numbers then it’s going to be farcical. The younger unvaccinated population just need to be sensible and not go and get tested if they have a wee cough, sorted. The younger ones will be wanting to go and get tested so they can post it all over Facebook for likes “omg waiting on my covid test results #worried”. All that should matter in a few weeks is death rates and ICU numbers, not if a barrel load of 40 year olds have a cough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just now, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The schools free-for-all in England next week could be where it all goes Pete Tong for him again. Every ad break on the radio yesterday had a UK Gov propaganda advert talking about how safe schools are. It will depend if England decide to concentrate on hospital and death figures, rather than case numbers. Cases will inevitably increase when schools go back and restrictions ease, but if hospitalisations and deaths don't increase (or in fact continue to decrease), Johnson can justifiably turn round and say that he made the correct choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkennedyshand Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56237471 Absolutely no good news here. When we eventually get to the level system in 7 weeks, criteria will be much stricter than last year. As it stands at the moment, very few areas will be moving down to level 2. (Apologies if this was posted already). Dear oh dear.Wonder how achievable those figures will be once schools go back.I've already noticed the school mithers out in large groups of 8-10 in the last few days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllSaint Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, super_carson said: I didn't think she had a doctorate in philosophy, as I did at least have a look at what her specialism was in (anthropology etc.) Granted, worded it like a petulant fanny and will take that on the chin. I mean, you clearly did. You literally posted that word for word. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 If it's going on case numbers then the games a bogey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56237471 Absolutely no good news here. When we eventually get to the level system in 7 weeks, criteria will be much stricter than last year. As it stands at the moment, very few areas will be moving down to level 2. (Apologies if this was posted already). 21 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I hate quoting myself, but I'm just reading further through the article. 'The strategic framework document says that weekly case rates and percentage of positive tests will remain core indicators when deciding which level a local authority is placed in'. So not hospitalisation, ICU admittance or deaths then. Case rates. f**k me. Just because some things remain core indicators doesn't mean other things won't. Hospitalisation and ICU admittance were core indicators previously. And if the vaccines work as well as they apparently do it should be too hard to get most places down there in 8 weeks time, and keep them there. Edited March 2, 2021 by renton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I think it's possible folk are jumping the gun a wee bit. I'll be giving them the opportunity to set out exactly what it'll look like. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Will the lateral flow tests be included in these figures? If they are then we are going to be shut forever. I would like to think there will be some clarification from the govt today about this BBC story being a lot of pish and these indicators will have a much lower weighting than before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Will the lateral flow tests be included in these figures? If they are then we are going to be shut forever. I would like to think there will be some clarification from the govt today about this BBC story being a lot of pish and these indicators will have a much lower weighting than before. They haven't so far, but a positive LFT gets you booked for a PCR test so might increase positivity that way. Edited March 2, 2021 by renton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I think it's possible folk are jumping the gun a wee bit. I'll be giving them the opportunity to set out exactly what it'll look like. I was seething last night but very much hoping this is the case now I've calmed down a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllSaint Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Disappointed to see the echo chamber in full tin foil hat mode today. I get you all want an end to restrictions (no, that doesn’t make a Tory) but losing your collective minds before actually knowing the facts isn’t going to do any good. It’s funny how one post can set off a chain reaction of moon howlers completely losing the plot. I’d bet a substantial number of those didn’t even bother to click the link and realise it’s an article written taking absolutely no new information into account. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Gaz said: I was seething last night but very much hoping this is the case now I've calmed down a bit. I mean, I'm basing it on absolutely nothing. Just not going to put the energy into being angry yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, super_carson said: No, I know. But my point was more it’s not medical per se. I think a few folk have pointed out that the most prominent advisors aren’t those qualified in virology or epidemiology. Perhaps allowing my frustration to get in the way of the point I’m trying to make. ETA: it’s not that I think her contributions are worthless, clearly she is qualified and her opinion is worth listening to. But I don’t think it should be taken as gospel, and should be weighed up against the opinions of virologists, epidemiologists, economists, socialists, etc. I just feel that, mostly due to MSM, the debate and range of opinions presented have become skewed. It isn’t great when such a big issue like the pandemic appears to be being influenced by a narrow field of experts. I was agreeing up until this point. Devi lost all goodwill from me when she started going on about us all being in this “shitsoup” together , and how those who’s mental health had been affected to basically man up and get outside. Since then I’ve saw her as nothing but a media whore, wanting her face in the papers and on GMB. If her and Leitch are the best advisors for the SG then god (no pun intended) help us -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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