Elixir Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Whats the forecast for delivery of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine? Given its a single dose we could absolutely fly through that and bump the numbers up. Like the other vaccines a starting amount should be here already, I am not getting the sense of govt urgency in getting this approved like the other ones. Perhaps they would rather go with the Az double dose as it' s slightly higher efficacy Edited February 21, 2021 by AyrExile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, AyrExile said: Like the other vaccines a starting amount should be here already, I am not getting the sense of govt urgency in getting this approved likes the other ones. Perhaps they would rather go with the Az double dose as it' s slightly higher efficacy The J&J one would be the ideal candidate for getting papped into the 18-35 population. Get it done in work places, late opening clinics etc. Id have hoped we would have had massive stocks of all the vaccines prepared for us to wheech out upon approval. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 It's got everything to do with the UK & Scottish Government, though. Did they expect foreign governments to ignore their BS "mOaR iNfEcTiOuS & mAyBe mOaR dEaDlY KeNt VaRiAnt" cries? The "mutation zone" label will hang around longer than case numbers are a concern, and that is entirely down to the actions of the UK Gov.I didn't realise the UK was the only country concerned by or actively testing for mutant strains. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: The J&J one would be the ideal candidate for getting papped into the 18-35 population. Get it done in work places, late opening clinics etc. Id have hoped we would have had massive stocks of all the vaccines prepared for us to wheech out upon approval. Think our early approval helped out with Pfizer supply plus Az link is giving us a big advantage there. As for the other vaccines supplies might be harder to guarantee as other countries perhaps more heavily bought in. Irrespective the Uk is in a great place as a country and we will be finished whilst others are still ploughing through 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Just over half of the samples submitted for sequencing come from the UK. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-to-share-genomics-know-how-to-help-other-countries-identify-new-variants-12198958 It would therefore be safe to say that there is a very real gap in some other countries and that they have little to no idea of how the virus mutating. Pretty sure we send around 10% of our positive cases to be sequenced. Edited February 21, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 55 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: It's got everything to do with the UK & Scottish Government, though. Did they expect foreign governments to ignore their BS "mOaR iNfEcTiOuS & mAyBe mOaR dEaDlY KeNt VaRiAnt" cries? The "mutation zone" label will hang around longer than case numbers are a concern, and that is entirely down to the actions of the UK Gov. I didn't realise the UK was the only country concerned by or actively testing for mutant strains. Its the only one acting hysterically about it and refusing to open up incase an as yet undiscovered and possibly non existing variant emerges. The UK was the country which caused the variant hysteria in what i’d argue was an ill advised way to deflect from a realisation that its policy for xmas was an absolute shit storm but didnt want to be forced into an embarrassing climb down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 55 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: It's got everything to do with the UK & Scottish Government, though. Did they expect foreign governments to ignore their BS "mOaR iNfEcTiOuS & mAyBe mOaR dEaDlY KeNt VaRiAnt" cries? The "mutation zone" label will hang around longer than case numbers are a concern, and that is entirely down to the actions of the UK Gov. I didn't realise the UK was the only country concerned by or actively testing for mutant strains. There's a difference between looking out for variants of concern, and actively declaring a particular variant 70% more infectious and possibly more deadly with nothing to back either claim up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just over half of the samples submitted for sequencing come from the UK. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-to-share-genomics-know-how-to-help-other-countries-identify-new-variants-12198958 It would therefore be safe to say that there is a very real gap in some other countries and that they have little to no idea of how the virus mutating. Pretty sure we send around 10% of our positive cases to be sequenced. I believe they’re ramping up genome sequencing capacity such that on current case number trends, they’ll be able to sequence every case by the end of March. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Like the other vaccines a starting amount should be here already, I am not getting the sense of govt urgency in getting this approved like the other ones. Perhaps they would rather go with the Az double dose as it' s slightly higher efficacy The government is completely independent of the regulator. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Donathan said: The government is completely independent of the regulator. How independent is up for debate though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Donathan said: I believe they’re ramping up genome sequencing capacity such that on current case number trends, they’ll be able to sequence every case by the end of March. F**k sake, in that case we really will be finding out about possible Govan and Castlemilk variants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Donathan said: I believe they’re ramping up genome sequencing capacity such that on current case number trends, they’ll be able to sequence every case by the end of March. Should be much easier to do so when we're not seeing 40k a day! No reason we shouldn't be able to sequence them all when we're into the lower 000s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Should be much easier to do so when we're not seeing 40k a day! No reason we shouldn't be able to sequence them all when we're into the lower 000s. Exactly! We are increasing the capacity at the same time as case numbers are falling to the point that eventually the capacity will outweigh demand and every case can be sequenced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elixir said: Fomite transmission isn't a thing. Why was the slide closed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Fomite transmission isn't a thing. Why was the slide closed?Because fomite transmission not being a thing has had absolutely no coverage whatsoever. Again, perhaps it's to try and retain good practices, but it shouldn't be driving policy, and to some extent, it must be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 The sun is out..... it means more shoppers. Had someone raging because online said we had a 32 inch TV but sadly it hadn't been delivered yet. He even took his mask off to have a little rage... was very amusing tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Elixir said: You should some of these parents posts about the entire pandemic on social media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicksion Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Based on the figures on vaccine supply in the withdrawn vaccine deployment plan we should now have 1.7 million doses, so with nearly 1.5 million doses adtually given it seems that the supply is as expected 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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