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As I mentioned earlier on the thread, my old man is due to get the jag on Tuesday. He's just phoned in a half huff to say that my mum, who is still in her 60s, has just had her letter to say that she will also be getting hers on the same day, an hour before him, and he's annoyed that all these young folk are being treated better than people of his age.

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1 minute ago, WATTOO said:

The sad fact is there's some that clearly are.

The media questions to NS today should confirm that there's many who feel exactly that way and want to see failure for their own political ends.

I suppose a footballing analogy would be the "supporter" who wants the Manager sacked being furious about the teams excellent performance and 5-0 victory over the side at the top of the league.

The only football analogy I'm seeing here is that of gormless happyclappers in the main stand, braying 'and anyway, who would you get in instead?' All while some Jonatan Johannson level clownshoe is trying his best to get the team relegated on the park. 

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1 hour ago, Stellaboz said:

That's why we never switched on the undersoil heating, to keep those jabs cool.

They are in cold storage in the big piles of snow in front of the Norrie. 

If you look closely you can see them here. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

It's some take on here that folk who have been saying they want the vaccination process to go faster will now be raging that it's going faster

Now that more vaccinations are happening, I'm sure the Scottish Government will give us every one of our civil liberties back once the rollout is complete.

I'm sure.

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Now that more vaccinations are happening, I'm sure the Scottish Government will give us every one of our civil liberties back once the rollout is complete.
I'm sure.
The "lockdown for zero covid" crowd are thankfully increasingly having their pants pulled down in public by the work of real scientists. Once their previosuly complicit media senses the turn of public tide, they will turn too.

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Posted at 13:19

Sturgeon: Overseas travel ban is a trade off in fight against virus

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Nicola Sturgeon has signalled overseas travel could be curtailed for months as part of an effort to help return school pupils to classrooms in Scotland.

The first minister confirmed the Scottish government intends to implement a "much more comprehensive" system of managed quarantine compared with proposals for England.

Sturgeon told her daily Covid briefing her strategy was "children first". "The trade off for us then is going to be not going overseas."

She said managed quarantine "will become an additional very important layer of protection" amid growing numbers of virus variants.

"I'm not able right now to give an end date," she said of the measures. "They have to be in place for as long as required."

Sturgeon said the oft-cited example of New Zealand - where the virus is largely eradicated - may not reflect Scotland's position.

She added that New Zealand had effectively shielded itself with a "ring of steel" in a way that may not be possible in Scotland.

I'm hoping those last two paragraphs means she at least realises the impossibility of 'Zero Covid'...

The rest, however, well...

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2 hours ago, Left Back said:

Don't do it.  I was in there a couple of summers back and it was dreadful....

 

...There's no air conditioning.

There was no air conditioning in Burma!

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On 03/02/2021 at 14:33, superbigal said:

 

Todays update:  Scotland drops below 7000 active cases. North Lanarkshire on the move to the 200 barrier down over 7% on the day which is great. The South of Scotland D&G & Borders seem to be joining the East and North in virtually all now at close or well sub 100 levels. The underlying bad news is that all the big drops are already at the foot of the infection table. Lots of rises on the West portion of the country.

So for our major cities you have Glasgow 193.0, Dundee 122.6, Edinburgh 67.4, Aberdeen 63.4  No schools open and all areas in lockdown for over a month.  Why are they not closer in numbers ?

Home Nations Infection  cases per 100K over the most up to date 7 days.

England 281.9 to 269.1 down 4.54%,  Wales 142.4 to 136.8 down 3.93%, Northern Ireland 212.8 to 207.7  down 2.40%

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan    

Yesterdays figure 25th Jan to 31st Jan was 132.9

Todays figure for 26th Jan to 1st Feb is 128.1   Another  single Day drop of 3.61%. Infections have dropped every day (now TWENTY EIGHT days in a row) since the aforementioned peak.  Total drop is now 57.57%

Council 24 hour progress below

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

North Lanarkshire 216.5 to  201.2   Down 7.07%

Falkirk   174.0 to 194.5  Heading the wrong way and surged from mid table a few days ago to 2nd top. Very spread out so unlikely to drop quickly.

Glasgow City 199.3 to 193.0 

South Lanarkshire  189.1 to 183.4

West Dunbartonshire 175.4 to 183.3

Renfrewshire 172.5 to 177.0

East Renfrewshire  172.7 to 175.9 

North Ayrshire 183.3 to 173.7

East Dunbartonshire  169.4 to 165.7

East Ayrshire 166.4 to 165.6

Clackmannanshire 153.3 to 159.1

Inverclyde 147.8 to 149.1

West Lothian  142.0 to 140.9  

Stirling  142.2 to 138.0

Dundee City 123.9 to 122.6  

South Ayrshire  129.7 to 122.5

Dumfries & Galloway 131.0 to 114.2  At 12.82% drop  a standout of the day.

Midlothian   114.6 to 106.0

Perth & Kinross    113.2 to 102.7  Down over 9%

Angus  110.2 to 99.8   Down over 9% and through the 100 barrier.  

Western Isles  74.9 to 93.6  

Moray   89.8 to 88.7

Argyll & Bute   85.0 to 81.5

Fife  82.7 to  80.6

East Lothian 74.7  to 76.6

Scottish  Borders  83.1 to 69.3  At 16.61% drop a tremendous day.

City Of Edinburgh  70.7 to 67.4 

Aberdeen City  75.7 to 63.4   Outstanding for our 3rd biggest city to drop another 16.24%

Highlands 66.1 to 61.9

Aberdeenshire  68.9  to 59.0  Awesome 14.37% drop 

Orkney Island  18.0 to 9.0   

Shetland Islands  4.4 to 0.0   Covid Free again

Edited by superbigal

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Thousands dead, an economy in the toilet and a population almost living under house arrest doesn't seem analogous to an "excellent performance and a 5-0 victory over a side at the top of the league", but you know what they say about opinions!

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Vaccination figures are very good again:

Scotland - 45,358 (27k ish last week)

England - 378k (252k last week)

Wales  28k (23.8k last week)

See you at the London fanzone for the Euros!

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Why are case rates so stubbornly high in the Glasgow area and the surrounding LAs compared to other parts of Scotland? Population density will play a role but they still seem very high considering the reduction in other areas.

Edited by RiG

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33 minutes ago, Elixir said:

I'm hoping those last two paragraphs means she at least realises the impossibility of 'Zero Covid'...

The rest, however, well...

So I have to sit in the house whilst kids go back to school? nonsense.

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28 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Todays update:  Scotland drops below 7000 active cases. North Lanarkshire on the move to the 200 barrier down over 7% on the day which is great. The South of Scotland D&G & Borders seem to be joining the East and North in virtually all now at close or well sub 100 levels. The underlying bad news is that all the big drops are already at the foot of the infection table. Lots of rises on the West portion of the country.

So for our major cities you have Glasgow 193.0, Dundee 122.6, Edinburgh 67.4, Aberdeen 63.4  No schools open and all areas in lockdown for over a month.  Why are they not closer in numbers ?

Home Nations Infection  cases per 100K over the most up to date 7 days.

England 281.9 to 269.1 down 4.54%,  Wales 142.4 to 136.8 down 3.93%, Northern Ireland 212.8 to 207.7  down 2.40%

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan    

Yesterdays figure 25th Jan to 31st Jan was 132.9

Todays figure for 26th Jan to 1st Feb is 128.1   Another  single Day drop of 3.61%. Infections have dropped every day (now TWENTY EIGHT days in a row) since the aforementioned peak.  Total drop is now 57.57%

Council 24 hour progress below

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

North Lanarkshire 216.5 to  201.2   Down 7.07%

Falkirk   174.0 to 194.5  Heading the wrong way and surged from mid table a few days ago to 2nd top. Very spread out so unlikely to drop quickly.

Glasgow City 199.3 to 193.0 

South Lanarkshire  189.1 to 183.4

West Dunbartonshire 175.4 to 183.3

Renfrewshire 172.5 to 177.0

East Renfrewshire  172.7 to 175.9 

North Ayrshire 183.3 to 173.7

East Dunbartonshire  169.4 to 165.7

East Ayrshire 166.4 to 165.6

Clackmannanshire 153.3 to 159.1

Inverclyde 147.8 to 149.1

West Lothian  142.0 to 140.9  

Stirling  142.2 to 138.0

Dundee City 123.9 to 122.6  

South Ayrshire  129.7 to 122.5

Dumfries & Galloway 131.0 to 114.2  At 12.82% drop  a standout of the day.

Midlothian   114.6 to 106.0

Perth & Kinross    113.2 to 102.7  Down over 9%

Angus  110.2 to 99.8   Down over 9% and through the 100 barrier.  

Western Isles  74.9 to 93.6  

Moray   89.8 to 88.7

Argyll & Bute   85.0 to 81.5

Fife  82.7 to  80.6

East Lothian 74.7  to 76.6

Scottish  Borders  83.1 to 69.3  At 16.61% drop a tremendous day.

City Of Edinburgh  70.7 to 67.4 

Aberdeen City  75.7 to 63.4   Outstanding for our 3rd biggest city to drop another 16.24%

Highlands 66.1 to 61.9

Aberdeenshire  68.9  to 59.0  Awesome 14.37% drop 

Orkney Island  18.0 to 9.0   

Shetland Islands  4.4 to 0.0   Covid Free again

Thanks again for these. Lots of good signs of on-going decreases.

Likewise the hospital numbers continue to improve.

Total in hospital 1812 down from 1865 yesterday. Was 2053 on 22nd January.

ICU numbers at 127 down from the 131 reported yesterday. Was at a peak of 161 for this wave on 22nd January.

Looking at figures for each Heath Board only Forth Valley seems to be bucking the trend of decreasing, or for some stable, numbers with 150 in reported as in hospital today compared to 130 reported on 29th January.

 

Edited by Distant Doonhamer

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7 minutes ago, RiG said:

Why are case rates so stubbornly high in the Glasgow area and the surrounding LAs compared to other parts of Scotland? Population density will play a role but they still seem very high considering the reduction in other areas.

There was an article I saw back before Christmas that basically said there were loads of factors, population density being just one.  There was also the impact of deprivation on attitudes to restrictions, financial impact of self-isolation, the type of job as well (Glasgow has a higher level on manual jobs than Edinburgh, for example).   Maybe there needs to be some more targeted support in these areas.  

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The issue of punishing those who break the rules has been a huge problem from the very beginning, and there are no easy solutions.


Maybe have a trial of a forced and co-ordinated visit to a local hospital, hearing from some of the doctors and nurses dealing with this shit, or having to listen to someone who lost a loved one. A kind of brutal example of community service - showing first hand the effects of being a fanny.

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1 hour ago, strichener said:

His use of rank was entirely by the book.  Captain and above can use their rank on leaving the forces.  

He was only a temporary Captain, though.

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Society might not return to normal until 2022, WHO scientist warns

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Society is unlikely to return to normal until "well into next year", one of the world's leading scientists has warned.

Prof Helen Rees, who sits on the World Health Organization's committee for Covid-19, says "first generation" vaccines may become less effective against new variants of coronavirus.

As a result, she tells BBC Wales Live, high-volume rollout of the jabs may not happen until 2022.

Prof Rees says clinical trials into the efficacy of the Novavax and Janssen vaccines against the South African variant suggest there is "reduced impact".

She says scientists are "concerned" the AstraZeneca and Pfizer jabs could also see reduced efficacy because they use the "original virus from China", while increasing numbers of variants are in circulation.

You can read more from Prof Rees here.

Utter dystopian nonsense.

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I do have to laugh at the idea that adults not being able to go on holiday to enable children to attend school just enough to be awarded a massively inflated grade is a "Trade off" - especially considering that the time they would be going on said holiday the schools would be closed anyway.

Trade Offs involve both parties giving up something in order to gain something in return.

Adults without children being asked to continue to give things up, whilst getting nothing in return, is not a trade off.

I'll be voting in May for whatever party promises to lift restrictions ASAP

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8 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

The issue of punishing those who break the rules has been a huge problem from the very beginning, and there are no easy solutions.


Maybe have a trial of a forced and co-ordinated visit to a local hospital, hearing from some of the doctors and nurses dealing with this shit, or having to listen to someone who lost a loved one. A kind of brutal example of community service - showing first hand the effects of being a fanny.

Aye mate, I'm sure what every person who's lost a loved one due to this virus wants to do is sit down in front of an 18 year old COVID denier and pour their heart out. 

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3 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Utter dystopian nonsense.

High Volume rollout is already happening, which should be enough to file the rest of her mewlings into the bin.

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