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The "trade off" If we send the schools back is that the R rate goes back above 1 again. I accept it's a massive pain in the arse that the schools are off, but sending them back prematurely will just drag the arse out of these restrictions longer. Remember - "more infectious variant yadda yadda" 

And yes, I've doubt that a lot of school kids are bored and miss their friends. It's not good for them. But then how many adults are bored, struggling to make ends meet on furlough or are about to see their jobs disappear because the government says they can't work? I understand the schools being the priority, but the cost of doing so doesn't seem worth it. 

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One for either the ‘it’s not a race’ or ‘Sturgeon OUT’ brigade from two weeks ago - Scotland has now given proportionately more first dose vaccines than England.

23% of the population have received a first dose. That’s magnificent to be honest.

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8 minutes ago, Paco said:

One for either the ‘it’s not a race’ or ‘Sturgeon OUT’ brigade from two weeks ago - Scotland has now given proportionately more first dose vaccines than England.

23% of the population have received a first dose. That’s magnificent to be honest.

Very good indeed.

Can't wait to hear how we will be able to make the most of the benefits this should bring by having more restrictions this summer than last summer, though.

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One for either the ‘it’s not a race’ or ‘Sturgeon OUT’ brigade from two weeks ago - Scotland has now given proportionately more first dose vaccines than England.

23% of the population have received a first dose. That’s magnificent to be honest.
Thanks for sharing that, they didn't mention it on the news despite bleating about Scotland lagging behind a week or so ago.
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14 minutes ago, Paco said:

One for either the ‘it’s not a race’ or ‘Sturgeon OUT’ brigade from two weeks ago - Scotland has now given proportionately more first dose vaccines than England.

23% of the population have received a first dose. That’s magnificent to be honest.

Old population and a huge healthcare workforce.

 

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Analysis: Hints at what the 'new normal' could entail

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Thinking about what the future might look can feel like a fairly futile exercise sometimes, with so much up in the air.

But Boris Johnson did just offer up at least one interesting glimpse. He suggested there could well be rapid testing for people heading off to venues like nightclubs and theatres; a way of keeping a lid on infection rates in those parts of the economy that are the “toughest nuts to crack”.

That may be some way off yet and there’ll be plenty of questions as to exactly how that would work.

But it does shine a little light on what life might look like in the "new normal".

Get this absurdity in the bin right now. tim.png

Aside from the pointless-ness of lateral flow testing, it's just unworkable nonsense. Folk waiting half cut for 20 minutes and then if you're asymptomatic and positive that's you humped? It's still health checks to do something recreational. Why not test for HIV or other STI's somewhere like a club it we're going down that route, or influenza in cinemas and theatres?

Shit like this is anything but 'normal'.

Bin.

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2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm not going to get annoyed by the routemap until I see it, and have also seen what NS things she needs to be seen to care more about and change for no real reason.

For someone who bangs on about a 4 nations approach being best she doesn't half love deviating and "going further"

“Banging “on about a four nation approach, and disagreeing with how some of the other nations are handling it, and so doing it differently, is not the same thing. 

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Just now, Rugster said:

“Banging “on about a four nation approach, and disagreeing with how some of the other nations are handling it, and so doing it differently, is not the same thing. 

It is though. What she means by a "4 nation approach" is everyone doing what she wants to do.

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Just now, Todd_is_God said:

It is though. What she means by a "4 nation approach" is everyone doing what she wants to do.

Who says we are deviating from the other nations? Why is it not the case they are deviating from us?

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2 hours ago, Michael W said:

Sky have been adept at fear mongering through sensationalism the entire pandemic. No reason they'll stop it now. 

Exactly this. I see their website is running with the "scientists say to keep social distancing for the foreseable" as their main headline. Whipping up other hysterical news sites like the Ayrshire Daily News to report it and have a meltdown in their comments section. MSM have a lot to answer for during the pandemic 

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Just now, Rugster said:

Who says we are deviating from the other nations? Why is it not the case they are deviating from us?

Come off it. The UK Gov never go "far enough" according to NS. It's quite clear who is doing the deviating.

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Just now, Todd_is_God said:

Come off it. The UK Gov never go "far enough" according to NS. It's quite clear who is doing the deviating.

What’s the death rate per head of population in England compared to Scotland? 

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Just now, Rugster said:

What’s the death rate per head of population in England compared to Scotland? 

What has that got to do with the point I made? You can't bemoan the lack of a 4 nation approach whilst at the same time being the one deviating.

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One thing I keep seeing being mentioned is the need for testing for months/years yet. Is their any reason why once the elderly and vulnerable have been vaccinated why we still need to test people? The various guises of Test and Protect are costing an absolute fortune to run each day. Why should money be wasted on this for much longer? Will folk like my Aunt who is 70 and a hypochondriac be allowed to get a test done even when shes been fully vaccinated? (She got her first dose yesterday). 

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