Billy Jean King Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Another mental statement from Johnson. The routemap will be "cautious but irreversible " that's some statement !!!Lol right on que when asked the very question "I can't give a cast iron guarantee....but I'm optimistic". Does this utter clown even listen to what he's saying ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Apparently the first easing of restrictions will be meeting people in parks. Which has been going on all winter so really nothing will change. It appears to be a return to the rule of 6. As I said yesterday this year is going to be a carbon copy of last year despite vaccines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: Apparently the first easing of restrictions will be meeting people in parks. Which has been going on all winter so really nothing will change. Ah but you'll be able to sit on a bench now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, superbigal said: I can only talk of experience of.my sons school. 1500 pupils over 2 sites. Total positive tests from August to December was 2. This is accurate as Fife report them all and I like.my figures as you all know. Now the school is academically the best in Fife so it may well be that transfers through to following the rules more than other schools. Does show it is possible though to avoid widespread events. Nursery/school I work in: 2cases School kids in: 2 cases Their previous school: 0 cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 It appears to be a return to the rule of 6. As I said yesterday this year is going to be a carbon copy of last year despite vaccines.When they concede this inch, I hope everyone takes a mile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I'm not going to get annoyed by the routemap until I see it, and have also seen what NS things she needs to be seen to care more about and change for no real reason. For someone who bangs on about a 4 nations approach being best she doesn't half love deviating and "going further" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I don’t see how it wouldn’t be. I’d imagine their using the same vaccine in the trial as they are in ‘real world’ and one would also imagine both the trials and ‘real world’ were tested on alive human beings.I haven't really read into the details of trials for these vaccines, but in general the main question, statistically speaking, is whether the sample in the trial is representative of the general population. It is conceivable that there are groups of people who are missed by the trial for whatever reason - for example a group being too vulnerable to take part or a certain type of person with certain characteristics being more willing to take part than others.A simple example would be if you were only advertising for participants on the internet, then you're going to miss out a lot of older people or more vulnerable people who don't use the internet much. That's obviously quite simplistic, but there will be other more nuanced issues that could easily be overlooked.You try to account for these things in the design of your trial and in your analysis, but there's always a tiny chance that something has been overlooked. Therefore it's always going to be something that is monitored to make sure that everything is working as intended. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I know it doesn’t need saying but Boris really is an absolute moron. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Sky reporter asking 'What if the vaccine is not 100% effective?'. At this point in proceedings, a year into this pandemic, they should be fucking barred from future conferences for even asking something as moronic as that. They know fine well that it's not 100% effective so why ask it other than looking for more sensationalism? Fucking Sky. Edited February 15, 2021 by djchapsticks 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Not long until kids are back to school and the over 50's are holidaying and socialising, think that will wrap up the May election for Nicola. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Not long until kids are back to school and the over 50's are holidaying and socialising, think that will wrap up the May election for Nicola. Killing all the old folks generally also means less tory votes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Sky reporter asking 'What if the vaccine is not 100% effective?'. At this point in proceedings, a year into this pandemic, they should be fucking barred from future conferences for even asking something as moronic as that. They know fine well that it's not 100% effective so why ask it other than looking for more sensationalism? Fucking Sky. Sky have been adept at fear mongering through sensationalism the entire pandemic. No reason they'll stop it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I'm not going to get annoyed by the routemap until I see it, and have also seen what NS things she needs to be seen to care more about and change for no real reason. For someone who bangs on about a 4 nations approach being best she doesn't half love deviating and "going further"As frustrating as the cautious approach the Scottish Government have applied so far, it has resulted in England having 1.5 times the deaths per head of population compared to Scotland. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Another mental statement from Johnson. The routemap will be "cautious but irreversible " that's some statement !!! Mental utterly utterly mental, I would much rather a fast moving programme linked with vaccine deployment, once the at risk groups have been done get the out door economy going again and a few weeks after that start a risk based approach at the indoor economy but be pragmatic if bowling alleys start a spike or we do actually see a MUTANT strain that is resistant to the vaccine then we need to be able to bring back in restrictions and most importantly financial support within hours. To say we won't be going back sends the wrong message imo maybe he wants one final U turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: When they concede this inch, I hope everyone takes a mile Can I come round for a mango pizza m9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkennedyshand Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Oofthttps://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/coronavirus-scotland-more-270-people-23505109 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Read Johnson between the lines - it will be a slow process and restrictions won't be lifted quickly once the priority groups have all had their first vaccination by April. It's a pretty clear rebuke to 60-70 of his own MPs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Michael W said: Must just have been a coincidence the rates went shooting up when they went back then. Aren't kids generally asymptomatic as well? They'll spread it easily even if not ill themselves. Whilst you are correct that the rates went up after the schools went back there may have been other factors in play if you look at the graph below it shows that after the implementation of circuit breaker and tier 4 restrictions in the Glasgow and surrounding areas, around the school October holidays, that the case levels were actually dropping until the Christmas break when everyone was given the free for all. So while schools may contribute to the overall level of infection you could say that it is obviously not the only factor that drives infections. Given the graphs it is therefore possible to have the schools open and control the infection spread with other measures and given now with vaccines available, we would hope, there is less pressure on hospitals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, davidkennedyshand said: Ooft https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/coronavirus-scotland-more-270-people-23505109 A Serco prison with a major outbreak. Who is it that the UKg have allowed to run their entire infection control system ah yes Serco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, davidkennedyshand said: Ooft https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/coronavirus-scotland-more-270-people-23505109 At least it's contained....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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