Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[doulikefish]

5 minutes ago, Snafu said:

So when do we all go for a pint?

My birthday is in March ....sounds reasonable 

[Ron Aldo]

'The goalposts aren't shifting!'

I try to take anything the mainstream media reports on with a pinch of salt but it's difficult not to get pissed off at headlines like this.

[Scosha]

18 minutes ago, Elixir said:

'The goalposts aren't shifting!'

We might as well just nuke ourselves at this rate. 

[madwullie]

31 minutes ago, Detournement said:

I'll be very surprised if they actually raided it due to Covid complaints. More than likely duff intelligence.

It reminds me of this 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/thug-cops-battered-terrorised-single-20999855.amp

 

f**k sake. That's brutal. 

Top quality stuff from the record letting us see what the cops could have looked like

[Mark Connolly]

42 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Police, Camera, Action

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31 minutes ago, Elixir said:

'The goalposts aren't shifting!'

Fucking hell  that's a real worry as the Telegraph is basically UK government Comms.

f**k that, I genuinely don't understand how it's beneficial, anyone get a Telegraph sub to find out if there was any huge caveat?

[Elixir]

This is very interesting and highlights why the recent fear porn over variants should eventually calm down and lead to more rational thinking going forward.

Should...

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, 101 said:

Fucking hell  that's a real worry as the Telegraph is basically UK government Comms.

f**k that, I genuinely don't understand how it's beneficial, anyone get a Telegraph sub to find out if there was any huge caveat?

The fact it's from Tim Spector, who seemed to be fairly rational and pragmatic, is pretty disheartening. I'm hoping the reporting has somewhat misquoted him, but maybe that's just me being optimistic.

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

1 minute ago, Elixir said:

Immunity revoked.

[Bairnardo]

So social distancing to remain in place forever.....

Except.... SD on it's own makes zero difference. Schools wont stay closed, nor should they. WFH will be binned by those businesses who it doesnt suit. Socialising will ramp up, and if hospitality is restricted, household mixing will increase massively, since no one will accept limitations on that score.

They really havent thought this through. They are burning through their grace period already. Infection rate will pick up in summer. No one will care. No one will buy further restrictions on the above things. All that's left is shelling hospitality and travel/tourism into the dust. Their call if they want to do that. Hopefully it results in career suicide for all concerned.

[Burnieman]

4 minutes ago, Elixir said:

This is very interesting and highlights why the recent fear porn over variants should eventually calm down and lead to more rational thinking going forward.

Should...

 

So the SA variant shouldn't actually get a foothold in the UK, and even if it did, it would be no worse than catching the flu virus.

OK. carry on.

 

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1 minute ago, Elixir said:

The fact it's from Tim Spector, who seemed to be fairly rational and pragmatic, is pretty disheartening. I'm hoping the reporting has somewhat misquoted him, but maybe that's just me being optimistic.

Genuinely can't see how things like outdoor festivals and sporting events couldn't be held safely. I mean they are usually in the summer and outdoors so natural transmission is low without a % vaccinated against the virus.

I would be interested to know the plan for say nightclubs and things I could see it being another 6 months/year for them, but the business owners need clarity now. The Telegraph is well connected in the Government and they will know the actual plans so let's hear them now.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Elixir said:

The fact it's from Tim Spector, who seemed to be fairly rational and pragmatic, is pretty disheartening. I'm hoping the reporting has somewhat misquoted him, but maybe that's just me being optimistic.

Very, very bad news when you're baw deep in Ryanair & Easyjet vouchers plus a rake of bloody Euros !!!

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Think that’s yesterday’s numbers. There were only 584 new cases today and further drops in hospital and ICU.

108 in ICU - down 9
1710 in hospital - down 16
584 new cases - test positivity going up from 5.9% to 6.9%

First two figures are good new - although the drop in hospital admissions was not as big as yesterday's figures. Positivity has crept up over the past few days - hope that's just a temporary phenomenon.

[Distant Doonhamer]

1 hour ago, stuart87 said:

 

Think that’s yesterday’s numbers. There were only 584 new cases today and further drops in hospital and ICU.

 

Yes

ICU numbers today 108 down from 117.

Hospital numbers 1710 down from 1729.

 

[Ron Aldo]

 
So the SA variant shouldn't actually get a foothold in the UK, and even if it did, it would be no worse than catching the flu virus.
OK. carry on.
 

That's how I'm reading it as well. The only slight concern I have is that the limited data they have is for younger people. Mild symptoms are likely to have more of an impact on a frail 80 something year old than a healthy 30 something year old. However, I hope that if there's any chance of the SA variant ever becoming the "dominant" one then by that point the vaccines should have been tweaked to be able to deal with it more effectively.

I'd imagine this is going to be the way of it for some time. It's no surprise that Covid is doing what every other virus does and mutated. We'll get an updated vaccine for the SA variant but there'll then be another variant which for which we'll need another slightly tweaked vaccine and so on.

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3 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Yes

ICU numbers today 108 down from 117.

Hospital numbers 1710 down from 1729.

 

ICU is the worry, pre pandemic the capacity was only 170 I would imagine they will insist on the ICU numbers getting to double digits before they consider it completely under control. Obviously hope that some of the extra capacity will stay when we will need it again for say a bad flu season.

[Burnieman]

2 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:

That's how I'm reading it as well. The only slight concern I have is that the limited data they have is for younger people. Mild symptoms are likely to have more of an impact on a frail 80 something year old than a healthy 30 something year old. However, I hope that if there's any chance of the SA variant ever becoming the "dominant" one then by that point the vaccines should have been tweaked to be able to deal with it more effectively.

I'd imagine this is going to be the way of it for some time. It's no surprise that Covid is doing what every other virus does and mutated. We'll get an updated vaccine for the SA variant but there'll then be another variant which for which we'll need another slightly tweaked vaccine and so on.

No doubt.  The flu vaccine is tweaked every year and compared to C19 vaccines is pretty rubbish, somehing like 50% efficacy at best.

The point is, the SA variant should not be used as a bogie man excuse for extending restrictions.

[Scosha]

4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

108 in ICU - down 9
1710 in hospital - down 16
584 new cases - test positivity going up from 5.9% to 6.9%

First two figures are good new - although the drop in hospital admissions was not as big as yesterday's figures. Positivity has crept up over the past few days - hope that's just a temporary phenomenon.

This might be an incredibly stupid question, but what happens say if those who are positive (or a majority) are the only people getting tested - shooting the positivity rate through the roof - but still only 500odd actual positive cases per day? 

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14 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Except.... SD on it's own makes zero difference

I think it's the only thing that works. If everyone stayed 2m apart the virus would be gone. Obviously not possible or practical in all situations but I'm pretty sure it does work.

But I agree it should be flung in the bin as soon as possible.