Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[mizfit]

[Theroadlesstravelled]

12 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said:

Utter dystopian nonsense.
BuT tEh NeW vArIeNtS!!!1!1!! etc.

I’m glad you’re here. I would normally have believed a professor with more than 20 years experience.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

47 minutes ago, RiG said:

Why are case rates so stubbornly high in the Glasgow area and the surrounding LAs compared to other parts of Scotland? Population density will play a role but they still seem very high considering the reduction in other areas.

Population density combined with poverty and low paid jobs which means people can't work from home. Can only take public transport work or the shops is a multiplier oninfection rates.

[doulikefish]

8 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Even Nigel ??

Considering he has been posting stuff on this thread from the tea party zoomers in the states i would think so

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

It's some take on here that folk who have been saying they want the vaccination process to go faster will now be raging that it's going faster

Staggering take from some posters. All people have ever asked for is a vaccination program thats efficient and transparent. If all the available stock is being used effectively then great, but hopefully they’ll be scope to increase roll out even further if the Sunday sessions madness is improved on etc. 

1 hour ago, Elixir said:

I'm hoping those last two paragraphs means she at least realises the impossibility of 'Zero Covid'...

The rest, however, well...

I dont think anyone has been arguing that the travel restrictions should be lifted immediately. Im quite happy to get a refund on my holiday for May etc if it means we give the vaccine time to take effect, not heard a single person argue against that. What we need however is a clear indication as to what the criteria for opening up travel will be, its hysterical to suggest shut the borders all year for something we have proven vaccination and treatment for in ever increasing numbers. 

[gav-ffc]

1 hour ago, superbigal said:

Todays update:  Scotland drops below 7000 active cases. North Lanarkshire on the move to the 200 barrier down over 7% on the day which is great. The South of Scotland D&G & Borders seem to be joining the East and North in virtually all now at close or well sub 100 levels. The underlying bad news is that all the big drops are already at the foot of the infection table. Lots of rises on the West portion of the country.

So for our major cities you have Glasgow 193.0, Dundee 122.6, Edinburgh 67.4, Aberdeen 63.4  No schools open and all areas in lockdown for over a month.  Why are they not closer in numbers ?

Home Nations Infection  cases per 100K over the most up to date 7 days.

England 281.9 to 269.1 down 4.54%,  Wales 142.4 to 136.8 down 3.93%, Northern Ireland 212.8 to 207.7  down 2.40%

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan    

Yesterdays figure 25th Jan to 31st Jan was 132.9

Todays figure for 26th Jan to 1st Feb is 128.1   Another  single Day drop of 3.61%. Infections have dropped every day (now TWENTY EIGHT days in a row) since the aforementioned peak.  Total drop is now 57.57%

Council 24 hour progress below

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

North Lanarkshire 216.5 to  201.2   Down 7.07%

Falkirk   174.0 to 194.5  Heading the wrong way and surged from mid table a few days ago to 2nd top. Very spread out so unlikely to drop quickly.

Glasgow City 199.3 to 193.0 

South Lanarkshire  189.1 to 183.4

West Dunbartonshire 175.4 to 183.3

Renfrewshire 172.5 to 177.0

East Renfrewshire  172.7 to 175.9 

North Ayrshire 183.3 to 173.7

East Dunbartonshire  169.4 to 165.7

East Ayrshire 166.4 to 165.6

Clackmannanshire 153.3 to 159.1

Inverclyde 147.8 to 149.1

West Lothian  142.0 to 140.9  

Stirling  142.2 to 138.0

Dundee City 123.9 to 122.6  

South Ayrshire  129.7 to 122.5

Dumfries & Galloway 131.0 to 114.2  At 12.82% drop  a standout of the day.

Midlothian   114.6 to 106.0

Perth & Kinross    113.2 to 102.7  Down over 9%

Angus  110.2 to 99.8   Down over 9% and through the 100 barrier.  

Western Isles  74.9 to 93.6  

Moray   89.8 to 88.7

Argyll & Bute   85.0 to 81.5

Fife  82.7 to  80.6

East Lothian 74.7  to 76.6

Scottish  Borders  83.1 to 69.3  At 16.61% drop a tremendous day.

City Of Edinburgh  70.7 to 67.4 

Aberdeen City  75.7 to 63.4   Outstanding for our 3rd biggest city to drop another 16.24%

Highlands 66.1 to 61.9

Aberdeenshire  68.9  to 59.0  Awesome 14.37% drop 

Orkney Island  18.0 to 9.0   

Shetland Islands  4.4 to 0.0   Covid Free again

There’s been targeted testing done in Grangemouth since the Start of the week.

[Caledonian1]

18 minutes ago, mizfit said:

 

Ah so that confirms suspicions that they were being economical with the truth with their "offered" nonsense.  Never has the Never trust a Tory phrase been so apt.  Let's see Gove avoid the question now that everyone knows the answer.

[Juanhourjoe]

6 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

1 hour ago, Elixir said:

 

I dont think anyone has been arguing that the travel restrictions should be lifted immediately. Im quite happy to get a refund on my holiday for May etc if it means we give the vaccine time to take effect, not heard a single person argue against that. What we need however is a clear indication as to what the criteria for opening up travel will be, its hysterical to suggest shut the borders all year for something we have proven vaccination and treatment for in ever increasing numbers. 

Maybe, once the other country you want to go to has vaccinated their vulnerable groups. If you can still transmit the virus even with both doses. It would seem selfish to head off to other places, just cause we're in the clear. Btw most countries will be no where near that by the end of the year.

[Detournement]

I don't think the WHO official is scare mongering.

If tests are showing that vaccines already have reduced efficacy against some variants then it's likely that problem is going to get worse as the year goes on. If our winter 2021-22 strategy is based around protection against this generation of vaccines then we need to minimise the chance of variants that undermine herd immunity entering the country or we will risk being locked down again next winter. 

[doulikefish]

22 minutes ago, mizfit said:

 

 

2 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said:

Ah so that confirms suspicions that they were being economical with the truth with their "offered" nonsense.  Never has the Never trust a Tory phrase been so apt.  Let's see Gove avoid the question now that everyone knows the answer.

He is still chasing an answer after the "eligible care homes" comment 

[Elixir]

1 minute ago, Juanhourjoe said:

Maybe, once the other country you want to go to has vaccinated their vulnerable groups. If you can still transmit the virus even with both doses. It would seem selfish to head off to other places, just cause we're in the clear. Btw most countries will be no where near that by the end of the year.

You can file your 'will the vaccines cut transmission' nonsense straight in the bin. Europe will have most of the population vaxxed by the end of summer, let alone vulnerable groups.

[doulikefish]

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

I don't think the WHO official is scare mongering.

If tests are showing that vaccines already have reduced efficacy against some variants then it's likely that problem is going to get worse as the year goes on. If our winter 2021-22 strategy is based around protection against this generation of vaccines then we need to minimise the chance of variants that undermine herd immunity entering the country or we will risk being locked down again next winter. 

Yip but paulos girlfriend needs to visit her mam and dad so he can get his leg over or something like that

[Detournement]

1 minute ago, Elixir said:

You can file your 'will the vaccines cut transmission' nonsense straight in the bin. Europe will have most of the population vaxxed by the end of summer, let alone vulnerable groups.

October 14th is the projected herd immunity for the EU.

Where is it you are absolutely choking to go?

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

I don't think the WHO official is scare mongering.

If tests are showing that vaccines already have reduced efficacy against some variants then it's likely that problem is going to get worse as the year goes on. If our winter 2021-22 strategy is based around protection against this generation of vaccines then we need to minimise the chance of variants that undermine herd immunity entering the country or we will risk being locked down again next winter. 

Err, the possibility of new variants emerging is never going to go away. And it is quite clear the vaccines are going to prevent hospitalisations and deaths from any current 'variant' in the short to medium term before boosters will be ready in the autumn anyway.

More mewlings that need fired into the Sun.

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Yip but paulos girlfriend needs to visit her mam and dad so he can get his leg over or something like that

'Please, please continue to restrict my freedom of movement and civil liberties long after population vaccine coverage has been achieved!'

[Todd_is_God]

26 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Considering he has been posting stuff on this thread from the tea party zoomers in the states i would think so

Have I?

[The Stig]

1 minute ago, Caledonian1 said:

Ah so that confirms suspicions that they were being economical with the truth with their "offered" nonsense.  Never has the Never trust a Tory phrase been so apt.  Let's see Gove avoid the question now that everyone knows the answer.

Would the English figures include refusals as it may have been offered to everyone but have a refusal rate of almost 10%? this could be due to a number of factors such a higher percentage of BAME workers. who will not take it for thier own reasons.  Is this not why Scotland can only report a 98% vaccination % as people may have refused or not been able to be vaccinated ?

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

October 14th is the projected herd immunity for the EU.

Where is it you are absolutely choking to go?

At current rates of vaccination, which are inevitably going to increase in the months ahead.

Nor is it about where I'm 'choking to go' right now.

[vikingTON]

11 minutes ago, Juanhourjoe said:

Maybe, once the other country you want to go to has vaccinated their vulnerable groups. If you can still transmit the virus even with both doses. It would seem selfish to head off to other places, just cause we're in the clear. Btw most countries will be no where near that by the end of the year.

Nobody is sticking a gun to a country's head to force them to accept international tourism. But in reality regional economies within Spain, Portugal, Greece etc. are heavily dependent on foreign visitors, so it is not even remotely 'selfish' to travel there. Hundreds of thousands of their livelihoods actually depend on a return to normal, whether the bed-wetters on here like it or not. 

The EU was opened up last June for this exact reason and it will be open again this summer to countries with a high rate of vaccination. 

Edited February 4, 2021 by vikingTON

[Arch Stanton]

32 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said:

I see that they're looking for volunteers to take part in studies on mixing vaccines.

Any over 50s out there interested in growing new limbs?

There's only one appendage I'd be interested in growing.