Detournement Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 If Sturgeon actually believes all the shite she comes out with then surely she has to conclude people are going to die because of the reduced weekend vaccinations? I bet we don't see any crocodile tears over that though. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 The offered patter is surely to account for the people who have been reached by the vaccine program but refused the offer of vaccination? Which is fine but you most certainly don't count or include those in the daily total. In that scenario it should be (for example) we have now offered the vaccine to 9m people while the actual figure of jags administered is 7.7m. That would be transparent on two counts ie actual folk vaccinated and number not taking the offer. The latter could hopefully then be broken down further to specific reasons for refusal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 hours ago, ayrmad said: It's shit like that that should shame Sturgeon with her 9000 in a day, the quicker they all get done the better, she's not got the slightest eye on this due to her focusing solely on a made up target. Boris and Co are going to dig themselves out of the shit they helped create whilst Sturgeon' arrogance is going to undo any gains she made. Quicker she's punted the better. Shite performance so far from SG on vaccinations but this is hysterical nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Not sure I'd want sturgeon replaced theres not much behind her tbh. Still if she wants to stand there as first minister then she should be accountable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, Detournement said: If Sturgeon actually believes all the shite she comes out with then surely she has to conclude people are going to die because of the reduced weekend vaccinations? I bet we don't see any crocodile tears over that though. She can counter that though by extending lockdown and imposing tougher quarantine restrictions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 1 hour ago, Detournement said: The offered patter is surely to account for the people who have been reached by the vaccine program but refused the offer of vaccination? Which is fine but you most certainly don't count or include those in the daily total. In that scenario it should be (for example) we have now offered the vaccine to 9m people while the actual figure of jags administered is 7.7m. That would be transparent on two counts ie actual folk vaccinated and number not taking the offer. The latter could hopefully then be broken down further to specific reasons for refusal. They probably think if they publicise refusals then the numbers will increase. The same reason you never see much in the media about suicides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) Nature journal article about disinfecting surfaces - it can’t be ruled out but the evidence (which is hard to collect) is that airborne transmission is a far bigger concern. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00251-4 My parents got their vaccination at the weekend and the 15 minute waiting period was done in a doctors waiting room with 2m social distancing but no windows open, which really worries me. We are potentially crowding vulnerable people into places where there’s a real risk of the virus being spread. The slowness of governments to update advice regarding ventilation is a real problem. I think one of the factors round it is touched upon in the last part of the article, namely that visible disinfecting and surface cleaning makes people feel better and safer. It’s an illusion of safety though and it could be very damaging. Amid all the talk about the impact on mental health, I wonder if we will see a lot more people developing OCD-type symptoms regarding cleaning and handwashing. The number of adverts you see now for anti-bacterial sprays and wipes is massive, showing people wiping down swings in the playpark or every surface in their home. Edited February 2, 2021 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, Detournement said: The offered patter is surely to account for the people who have been reached by the vaccine program but refused the offer of vaccination? Which is fine but you most certainly don't count or include those in the daily total. In that scenario it should be (for example) we have now offered the vaccine to 9m people while the actual figure of jags administered is 7.7m. That would be transparent on two counts ie actual folk vaccinated and number not taking the offer. The latter could hopefully then be broken down further to specific reasons for refusal. No one is suggesting that is happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 15 hours ago, madwullie said: All this despite the fact we've jagged -lwhat, ~10% of the population, including all the most vulnerable care home residents, presumably in the top 10 (5?) or so nations on the planet. Are we always comparing Scotland's rates to the rest of the world? From the Scottish government we only compare our death rates with England, that's because they are horrendous and makes us look good in comparison when in reality we have performed terribly. Now because our vaccinations rate is worse than England we want to look at it in global terms and not a direct comparison to England. Can't have it both ways. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Leitch on Radio Scotland this morning saying he could “let the secret out” that they are looking at schools going back in some form soon. Didn’t give dates but from the tone sounded fairly imminent. Also did a great job of avoiding the Sunday vaccination number question with irrelevant stats about our prevalence vs England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Leitch on Radio Scotland this morning saying he could “let the secret out” that they are looking at schools going back in some form soon. Didn’t give dates but from the tone sounded fairly imminent. Also did a great job of avoiding the Sunday vaccination number question with irrelevant stats about our prevalence vs England. Folk like Leitch now squirming like politicians? Just ones who were never elected instead. What a shock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, Detournement said: The offered patter is surely to account for the people who have been reached by the vaccine program but refused the offer of vaccination? Which is fine but you most certainly don't count or include those in the daily total. In that scenario it should be (for example) we have now offered the vaccine to 9m people while the actual figure of jags administered is 7.7m. That would be transparent on two counts ie actual folk vaccinated and number not taking the offer. The latter could hopefully then be broken down further to specific reasons for refusal. They aren't included in the daily total - the total denotes vaccines administered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Leitch on Radio Scotland this morning saying he could “let the secret out” that they are looking at schools going back in some form soon. Didn’t give dates but from the tone sounded fairly imminent. Also did a great job of avoiding the Sunday vaccination number question with irrelevant stats about our prevalence vs England. It should be Swinney delivering this, not Jason Leitch. He is, after all, "only an advisor". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Todd has actually pole vaulted the shark calling people simps now. Lunatic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, GiGi said: Todd has actually pole vaulted the shark calling people simps now. Lunatic. What does simp mean? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) It's more of an American thing but Quote Simp is an Internet slang term, used pejoratively for someone who is seen as using excessive sympathy and attention toward another person in order to win their affection, sometimes in pursuit of a sexual relationship Throwing it about in threads is generally the behaviour of the Trumpian right wing. Strange stuff. Edited February 2, 2021 by GiGi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, ICTChris said: What does simp mean? You dont believe that this is over as a danger to public health 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Are we always comparing Scotland's rates to the rest of the world? From the Scottish government we only compare our death rates with England, that's because they are horrendous and makes us look good in comparison when in reality we have performed terribly. Now because our vaccinations rate is worse than England we want to look at it in global terms and not a direct comparison to England. Can't have it both ways.Wullie and I both said we should not make comparisons at any time - I said so when some were doing the better than England stuff over daily infections and death rates.It's utterly pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) I'm currently watching a Prison Planet man video about what a Simp is, it seems like he's maybe the best person to explain it. I'm not sure how long I can last, his voice is so annoying. Two minutes, I get it now. My Youtube recommendations are going to be hellish Edited February 2, 2021 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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