doulikefish Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, Elixir said: Now we're talking you odious Tory cretin. It was easter just a few weeks short ago that bojo and hancock were telling us things would be better 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 TBF the chat has been pretty grim about this for weeks now - it's largely been written off as fear porn / scaremongering / a tactic to keep us in lockdown longer than required. The data so far shows that the sa variant is less responsive to vaccines. Not a huge amount, but enough to require tweaking of the vaccine, which will then have to go through its own trials etc again and isn't an immediate process. Obviously it's therefore a concern that further variants may arise that cause greater issues than this, and while the govt has been trying to explain this its been drowned out by people scoffing at hypothetical variants etc. In some ways, it's exactly the type adult converstion people have been demanding, but because it's not what they want to hear, it's discounted. Got a source for the tweaking of a vaccine for new variants having to then go through trials? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 While I'm not sure what she means by "other measures", I think we all know Scotland will be in lockdown till the end of February at least; that's no surprise and would be consistent with NS's approach so far. That said, lockdown should not be used to control the virus while dawdling on vaccinations and her comments about yesterday's figures being so poor didn't exactly come across as urgent. I'm not comparing this to WM's changing of the terminology, but our response to what is perceived to be a slow roll out. At the very least, these vaccinations should help limit people getting seriously ill and/or dying. If no death from covid was acceptable then we have to get proper stabby up here. I'll reserve full judgement for another couple of weeks but the finger has to be pulled out, especially if there is a good chance (as some of the data from Israel shows, apparently) that these vaccines reduce transmission and hospitalisations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 I think we should have a zero notice approach to easing restrictions. The First Minister comes on the lunchtime news conference and says "Pubs can open .... NOW" and we then witness a mad dash to the doors of the pubs by their landlords and the borderline functioning alcoholics. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I see it going like this - End of Feb - non essential businesses reopening End of March - Reopening of all, unless furlough becomes industry specific and they end up pushing hospitality to end of April. No football attendances this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 289,359 1st doses in England - last Sunday was 198,592 9,683 1st doses in Scotland - last Sunday was 11,364 12,898 1st doses in Wales - last Sunday was 6,322 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, mizfit said: No football attendances this season. Clownshoes is hinting at that for the start of next season No idea how clubs even start to sell season tickets just now, thankfully for Saints we always wait until 1st June but for those who sell early id say its a hard sell. (Bar the old firm as there is a waiting list) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jan Vojáček said: Disappointing that Nicola didn't just flat-out say that Freeman was talking out her arse. The idea of a minister ever taking responsibility for their own failures has long gone out the window in this failed state. 1 minute ago, mizfit said: I see it going like this - End of Feb - non essential businesses reopening End of March - Reopening of all, unless furlough becomes industry specific and they end up pushing hospitality to end of April. No football attendances this season. I wish that were true but you are forgetting just how long it took the SG to end the 2020 lockdown. Which shows in the absolutely diabolical economic figures for last spring and should (but won't) be used to show Sridhar and her zero-Covid allies the door right now as well. Until the last diabetic fatty is no longer at risk then they'll be screaming at everyone to stay at home. I wouldn't rule out 'we just need to give the nurses a break' being thrown into the mix of excuses this spring as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, DMCs said: 289,359 1st doses in England - last Sunday was 198,592 9,683 1st doses in Scotland - last Sunday was 11,364 12,898 1st doses in Wales - last Sunday was 6,322 Absolutely pathetic figures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I see it going like this - End of Feb - non essential businesses reopening End of March - Reopening of all, unless furlough becomes industry specific and they end up pushing hospitality to end of April. No football attendances this season. What “non essential businesses” are you talking about?Plenty of “non essential” sectors are currently allowed to open, e.g. construction and manufacturing. Other non essential sectors such as IT/Finance type stuff can do their work from home and thus there’s absolutely no rush to reopen the offices. This should be the last thing to go.I can only assume you’re talking about retail? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I think we should have a zero notice approach to easing restrictions. The First Minister comes on the lunchtime news conference and says "Pubs can open .... NOW" and we then witness a mad dash to the doors of the pubs by their landlords and the borderline functioning alcoholics. I'd like a tombola style approach, preferably with a drunken Rod Stewart, as to which pubs get to open. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, superbigal said: Anyone with half a brain knows what the snp are doing with all this daily negativity. It does my box in no end and respect for the powers that be are draining. However most of the Scottish population does not have said half a brain, and if it helps keep the feckers in check and not breaking rules, then I can just about stomach it.. I don't think it is that to be honest. I just think 'cautiousness' at every turn, and flagging up every negative piece of news there is, but less so with postive stories (SA variant mentioned today, but Novavax and J&J vaccines never has been), has just become so entrenched in their position that its their default setting now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, DMCs said: 289,359 1st doses in England - last Sunday was 198,592 9,683 1st doses in Scotland - last Sunday was 11,364 12,898 1st doses in Wales - last Sunday was 6,322 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, DMCs said: 289,359 1st doses in England - last Sunday was 198,592 9,683 1st doses in Scotland - last Sunday was 11,364 12,898 1st doses in Wales - last Sunday was 6,322 Tomorrow’s figures a last chance for me not to lose all respect for our vaccination roll out. At the very least needs to be showing that it will be getting near 40000. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: The report of that was a single anecdoate relayed third hand. The number of people who would need to request a specific vaccine to impact these deliveries would be massive, tens of thousands at a minimum. I would highly doubt that this is a real phenomenon and would also highly doubt that it is having any impact on vaccine availability or delivery. No place for logic on this thread, boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: What “non essential businesses” are you talking about? Plenty of “non essential” sectors are currently allowed to open, e.g. construction and manufacturing. Other non essential sectors such as IT/Finance type stuff can do their work from home and thus there’s absolutely no rush to reopen the offices. This should be the last thing to go. I can only assume you’re talking about retail? The barbers better open up at the end of February. Gyms etc. were open in tier 3 areas all the way through until Christmas so should be on the cards for reopening at a reasonably high rate of cases as well. Edited February 1, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, DMCs said: 289,359 1st doses in England - last Sunday was 198,592 9,683 1st doses in Scotland - last Sunday was 11,364 12,898 1st doses in Wales - last Sunday was 6,322 Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, DMCs said: 289,359 1st doses in England - last Sunday was 198,592 9,683 1st doses in Scotland - last Sunday was 11,364 12,898 1st doses in Wales - last Sunday was 6,322 That's just horrendous 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, virginton said: The barbers better open up at the end of February. Gyms etc. were open in tier 3 areas all the way through until Christmas so should be on the cards for reopening at a reasonably high rate of cases as well. Did they ever publish the "evidence" that these were areas of high transmission? I always thought it strange that they made such a song and dance about gyms until September yet they stayed open in tier 3. Not that I'm complaining, in fact I would be pleasantly surprised if a government came out and said they got something wrong first time and were changing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Back in my nightclubbing days I must have offered about 900 000 burds the chance of a ride with yours truly, by todays logic that must make me an absolute top shagger despite the fact I ended up pumping 10 of them , but all them could have got it if they'd wanted 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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