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Hate to say it but the tories actually look like they have done a decent job with the multiple vaccines and the vaccinations. They have, rightly, taken stick but deserve some credit. Probably because that wee fanny matt hancock hasnt been involved


From what I have read Hancock deserves a lot of credit for the vaccine procurement.

COVID-19: Rejected contracts and a Hollywood movie - how UK struck deal to guarantee vaccine supply http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-rejected-contracts-and-a-hollywood-movie-how-uk-struck-deal-to-guarantee-vaccine-supply-12204044
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25 minutes ago, Aufc said:

Hate to say it but the tories actually look like they have done a decent job with the multiple vaccines and the vaccinations. They have, rightly, taken stick but deserve some credit. Probably because that wee fanny matt hancock hasnt been involved

Theres no real skill involved in the pay lots for every vaccine approach. Its kinda like buying every house on a street and celebrating when only one goes on fire. 

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Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Theres no real skill involved in the pay lots for every vaccine approach. Its kinda like buying every house on a street and celebrating when only one goes on fire. 

Maybe the EU should have adopted that “no real skill” approach. We should be grateful that our government did.

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30 minutes ago, Aufc said:

Hate to say it but the tories actually look like they have done a decent job with the multiple vaccines and the vaccinations. They have, rightly, taken stick but deserve some credit. Probably because that wee fanny matt hancock hasnt been involved

There's still ample opportunity to screw it up. When someone says 'i hope we are all vaccinated soon', what they are really saying is 'hopefully we can go to the pub soon'. I think we are quite far from the latter. 

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As of Saturday a total of 8,977,329 people had received a jab, and 491,053 of those have had a second dose.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said he was "delighted", adding each vaccine "brings us one step closer to normal".

Start acting like that's the case then, you cretin.

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27 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
1 hour ago, ayrmad said:
Not exactly set up for a high churn rate was what I heard, all those lovely gym halls would have been ideal. 

Mass vaccination at the Citadel starts tomorrow ie a gym hall

Would have preferred gym halls. 

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1 minute ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

He was just ticking something off his bucket list. 

Not that I really care the old boy is making the most of his borrowed time, but publicising this is some laugh.

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Heard the delivery at Ayr hospital was less than a straightforward operation, shambles was how it was described, not good after 10 months of planning. 
Had my 1st Pfizer at Ayr hospital 2 weeks ago. It was the opposite of what you've heard. In and out in 30 minutes. Arm was tender the next day then wore off. (The pain...not my arm)
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14 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

Maybe the EU should have adopted that “no real skill” approach. We should be grateful that our government did.

Why are you making this some kind of black/white approach? Seriously? Aye the EU fucked up. Thats absolutely obvious. But lets not pretend that the UK have played a masterstroke in terms of business acumen by buying large amounts of every vaccine like its some kind of outstanding stroke of genius. They did the same with shite quality PPE and shite quality IT equipment and outsourcing for track and trace etc. What they’ve done is have an absolute shit fit and thrown massive amounts of money at every aspect of this they can, thats not skill. 
When you f**k up as much as our government have through this you’re bound to get at least one thing right. 

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17 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Why are you making this some kind of black/white approach? Seriously? Aye the EU fucked up. Thats absolutely obvious. But lets not pretend that the UK have played a masterstroke in terms of business acumen by buying large amounts of every vaccine like its some kind of outstanding stroke of genius. They did the same with shite quality PPE and shite quality IT equipment and outsourcing for track and trace etc. What they’ve done is have an absolute shit fit and thrown massive amounts of money at every aspect of this they can, thats not skill. 
When you f**k up as much as our government have through this you’re bound to get at least one thing right. 

It’s better to be lucky than good.  Seems like the vaccine procurement process has worked.  Lots of people have been quick to criticise other aspects of the response.  It’s only fair to say they got this one right.

why is buying quantities of multiple vaccines deemed to bad btw?  EU and US have done the same (along with many other nations).  I don’t see you tearing in to them for doing the same thing as we did ( and in the case of the EU doing it much slower and therefore fucking it up)

if they’d bought 150m doses of one potential vaccine (like Sanofi for example) where would we be now?

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32 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Why are you making this some kind of black/white approach? Seriously? Aye the EU fucked up. Thats absolutely obvious. But lets not pretend that the UK have played a masterstroke in terms of business acumen by buying large amounts of every vaccine like its some kind of outstanding stroke of genius. They did the same with shite quality PPE and shite quality IT equipment and outsourcing for track and trace etc. What they’ve done is have an absolute shit fit and thrown massive amounts of money at every aspect of this they can, thats not skill. 
When you f**k up as much as our government have through this you’re bound to get at least one thing right. 

Literally the only reason we've taken this approach is because we fucked up everything else so badly. 

The only possible thing that could save us was vaccines, so rather than wait and see which ones worked / were most effective, we had to just chuck everything we had at every single vaccine and cross our fingers they were ready in time. 

Turns out we've been lucky and it looks a good move. Really really genuinely pleased at that, but if it had taken another, say 18 months to get them up and running we'd be completely and utterly fucked with not much else to do but actually properly stay inside forever or get on with it with hundreds of thousands dying and hope to f**k herd immunity arrived soon. 

 

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