Michael W 3,042 Report post Posted January 15 27 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said: Just heard a podcast with some economist saying she expects there to be 500,000 fewer births in the USA in 2021 as compared with the expected numbers if covid had never existed. Good news for 2021 children in terms of class sizes, competition for places in higher education etc, not great news in terms of ageing the population and paying for public services. Not sure what the UK figures are, but lots of lonely weans. If you've been stuck inside with a child during lockdown and you genuinely want to have another, then have lost your damn mind, frankly. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Back 366 Report post Posted January 15 31 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: Birth rates need to decrease across the board anyway, so good news. To sustain a population you need a birth rate of around 2.1 (as not all children make it to adulthood). We probably need more than that as we need a larger working population to support an ageing society. We’re actually struggling here with too low a birth rate. Birth rate in England and Wales hits record low https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49192445 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 2,687 Report post Posted January 15 (edited) @SkyNews · 20m The UK is still making its 'biggest mistake' of treating COVID like flu - when it should be tackled like SARS, says Professor @devisridhar , chair of Global Public Health. Follow live #coronavirus updates COVID live news - latest updates: UK still making 'biggest mistake' of treating coronavirus like... Live coronavirus updates as: UK bans all travel from South America and Portugal, and the delayed daily COVID deaths come in at 1,248. news.sky.com UK is making 'biggest mistake' of treating COVID like flu - when it should be tackled like SARS Professor Devi Sridhar,chair of Global Public Health, has had this to say on Twitter... Biggest mistake UK made (& continues to make) is seeing COVID like flu that will become seasonal & come back each winter rather than like SARS to push to eliminate. Aside from lives & NHS strain, economy & children are paying an unacceptably high cost for this approach. — Prof. Devi Sridhar (@devisridhar) January 13, 2021 Edited January 15 by Snafu 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJTS98 44 Report post Posted January 15 29 minutes ago, Snafu said: I'm sure 2022 will more than make up for that if there is no restriction that year. Apparently that depends on economic recovery. Weans are essentially consumer goods that people have when they can afford, according to economist on radio. -1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Todd_is_God 2,983 Report post Posted January 15 Sridhar is clearly panicking about the early results in Israel looking like the end of the limelight for her. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steven W 208 Report post Posted January 15 I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bendan 422 Report post Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? It covers a period of three days. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Fifer 1,703 Report post Posted January 15 What is it that the Scottish Government is saying is happening that will cause us to go from 16k vaccinations a day to hundreds of thousands a day? Aren't the doses already good to go? What's going to change to cause this huge increase in numbers? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Todd_is_God 2,983 Report post Posted January 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? I get the point you are making here, but if you are going to use a graph that covers just three days on here to make it, then i'll come back in a few pages once the simps have replied. Edited January 15 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekhibee88 12 Report post Posted January 15 2 hours ago, MP_MFC said: 3 hours ago, Elixir said: How does it actually work in practice in Glasgow etc, i.e. surely you can have a drink in a park on a summer's day? Nope. I mean people do, but the polis can make you empty it and or fine you. Once I was drinking in Kelvingrove with a mate, we got stopped by Police. If its a group of girls probably wont get stopped. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Todd_is_God 2,983 Report post Posted January 15 Just now, Big Fifer said: What is it that the Scottish Government is saying is happening that will cause us to go from 16k vaccinations a day to hundreds of thousands a day? Aren't the doses already good to go? What's going to change to cause this huge increase in numbers? We need to get to around 57k per day to hit our target (assuming 7 days per week). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL 786 Report post Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? It's a three day snap shot......but I suspect you knew that. As an aside, my dad has just messaged me to say he and my mum are getting their jags on Sunday at GPs. They are fit, mid 70s in Helensburgh so must be moving down the tiers now. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest Saints Fan 2,714 Report post Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? Have we not mostly focused on care homes and staff first which take more time to administer? We've done 80% of residents and 55% of care home staff. I can't remember the stats for down south but it was definitely less. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madwullie 2,516 Report post Posted January 15 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I get the point you are making here, but if you are going to use a graph that covers just three days on here to make it, then i'll come back in a few pages once the simps have replied. Why don't you give us your hot take Todd then we can be certain what isn't causing it. Edited January 15 by madwullie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Jean King 1,993 Report post Posted January 15 Have we not mostly focused on care homes and staff first which take more time to administer? We've done 80% of residents and 55% of care home staff. I can't remember the stats for down south but it was definitely less.Exactly. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael W 3,042 Report post Posted January 15 31 minutes ago, Snafu said: @SkyNews · 20m The UK is still making its 'biggest mistake' of treating COVID like flu - when it should be tackled like SARS, says Professor @devisridhar , chair of Global Public Health. Follow live #coronavirus updates COVID live news - latest updates: UK still making 'biggest mistake' of treating coronavirus like... Live coronavirus updates as: UK bans all travel from South America and Portugal, and the delayed daily COVID deaths come in at 1,248. news.sky.com UK is making 'biggest mistake' of treating COVID like flu - when it should be tackled like SARS Professor Devi Sridhar,chair of Global Public Health, has had this to say on Twitter... Biggest mistake UK made (& continues to make) is seeing COVID like flu that will become seasonal & come back each winter rather than like SARS to push to eliminate. Aside from lives & NHS strain, economy & children are paying an unacceptably high cost for this approach. — Prof. Devi Sridhar (@devisridhar) January 13, 2021 Aye, we shut down half the UK's economy for flu every year, right enough. Can't believe I've never noticed that before. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest Saints Fan 2,714 Report post Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: 9 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: Have we not mostly focused on care homes and staff first which take more time to administer? We've done 80% of residents and 55% of care home staff. I can't remember the stats for down south but it was definitely less. Exactly. I had a wee look and a couple days ago England were at something like 23%. They want to have all care home residents vaccinated by 24th January but most care home owners think that is ambitious due to the time it takes. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madwullie 2,516 Report post Posted January 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Michael W said: Aye, we shut down half the UK's economy for flu every year, right enough. Can't believe I've never noticed that before. That's not what she's saying though. I don't agree with her, but her point is it isn't flu, but if we treat it as such (seasonal, inevitable) then we will end up taking measures each year to counter it, whereas if we get rid of it now that won't need to be the case. It ignores the fact, though, that vaccination should mean it isn't as severe or as prevalent and therefore strict measures won't be required. Edited January 15 by madwullie 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 2,687 Report post Posted January 15 (edited) Who is Jason Leith??? Sky News 07:53 Scottish government removes details of its vaccine plan from the internet 'The document had details about supplies and timings for when people might be given the vaccine - and had been criticised for containing "sensitive information". Professor Jason Leith, Scotland's national clinical director, explained the information had been posted in the first place to reassure people. He said: "We published it to reassure the public that the vaccination plan is in place." He added they had been "trying to balance" the need for giving the public answers to their questions about when they would get a jab but he admitted a table of more sensitive information had been removed from the website. Though he added that this was done after a "conversation above my pay grade between politicians and their advisers".' Edited January 15 by Snafu 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Todd_is_God 2,983 Report post Posted January 15 32 minutes ago, madwullie said: Why don't you give us your hot take Todd then we can be certain what isn't causing it. Chief Simp couldn't resist I see 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
