Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I have zero issue with the anti-vaxxer morons being barred from mixing with the rest of society until the virus is eradicated.f**k them. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 This has probably been asked, but has there been a precedent of something like this (vaccine) being created and rolled out at the quickest opportunity? Is there a time frame for between the first and the last group of people to be given a dose? I’m still anticipating restrictions to be in place well after the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Yes, if there’s one thing Boris Johnson and his Government has shown through all of this is an ability to coordinate messaging fir their own political benefit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Karpaty Lviv said: This has probably been asked, but has there been a precedent of something like this (vaccine) being created and rolled out at the quickest opportunity? Is there a time frame for between the first and the last group of people to be given a dose? I’m still anticipating restrictions to be in place well after the summer. I was reading an article last week addressing this and, specifically, the concerns amongst some that this has been found within 9 months when most vaccines take ten years. Essentially, most of the ten-year process for other vaccines is spent applying for, being rejected, and re-applying for funding to actually do the research in the first place. The amount of actual medical research / trials is nowhere near ten years and is usually carried out by relatively small companies. The fact that the entire medical community has been focused on finding this and have had pretty much unlimited funding is why this has been able to happen so quickly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 This has probably been asked, but has there been a precedent of something like this (vaccine) being created and rolled out at the quickest opportunity? Is there a time frame for between the first and the last group of people to be given a dose? I’m still anticipating restrictions to be in place well after the summer.There’s no benefit to any of the UK Govts to have restrictions in place for any longer than needed. I reckon once most of the vulnerable and over 50’s are vaccinated they might start winding back restrictions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: I was reading an article last week addressing this and, specifically, the concerns amongst some that this has been found within 9 months when most vaccines take ten years. Essentially, most of the ten-year process for other vaccines is spent applying for, being rejected, and re-applying for funding to actually do the research in the first place. The amount of actual medical research / trials is nowhere near ten years and is usually carried out by relatively small companies. The fact that the entire medical community has been focused on finding this and have had pretty much unlimited funding is why this has been able to happen so quickly. No doubt that every resource, both physical and financial, has been thrown at this as priority. My question is how quickly can an entire population/those eligible be given a dosage of the vaccine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: I have zero issue with the anti-vaxxer morons being barred from mixing with the rest of society until the virus is eradicated. f**k them. What about those who havent yet been offered a vaccine? Should they be frozen out from normal life until their turn comes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I remember laughing at Republicans in the US whipping up nonsense stories about the vaccine trials and approval being some kind of political plot against them a couple of weeks ago. Now the internet is full of people coming up with the same dumb as f**k takes here in the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gaz said: I was reading an article last week addressing this and, specifically, the concerns amongst some that this has been found within 9 months when most vaccines take ten years. Essentially, most of the ten-year process for other vaccines is spent applying for, being rejected, and re-applying for funding to actually do the research in the first place. The amount of actual medical research / trials is nowhere near ten years and is usually carried out by relatively small companies. The fact that the entire medical community has been focused on finding this and have had pretty much unlimited funding is why this has been able to happen so quickly. Aye, The new ones were made in a couple of weeks of getting the genetic blueprint from China, much of the groundwork was done for the prequal, Sars I. The technology's changed massively, you used to have to grow each dose in an egg. All the time since March has been spent on testing and mass production, they were very confident from the start that they would work to some extent, and be safe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Vaccine approval is going to reinvigorate some utter shite tbh. Zero covid being chief among them I'd bet There absolutely no excuse for any restrictions once the vulnerable list have been vaccinated. You just know the media in this country will pish their pants at the first sign of a few cases though and enable continuing restrictions. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, mizfit said: There’s no benefit to any of the UK Govts to have restrictions in place for any longer than needed. I reckon once most of the vulnerable and over 50’s are vaccinated they might start winding back restrictions. Leitch says "months" of roll out, which was expected tbh, but the use of the word normality is good too see. Hopefully "months" means < 6, and that we do start to see an easing of restrictions as they work their way down the list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 32 minutes ago, virginton said: I find the idea of taxpayer funded intensive healthcare for some moron who thinks that their back of a fag packet concern is sufficient grounds to not take a vaccine more than 'unsettling', so here we are. Hopefully the first lot of anti vaxxers to drop dead will be the weirdos hanging around Holyrood on a Saturday having ceilidhs and quoting from Braveheart. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 What about those who havent yet been offered a vaccine? Should they be frozen out from normal life until their turn comes?Nope. My ire is fully directed towards people who refuse to take the vaccine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, Todd_is_God said: Leitch says "months" of roll out, which was expected tbh, but the use of the word normality is good too see. Hopefully "months" means < 6, and that we do start to see an easing of restrictions as they work their way down the list. Just to add to my previous, the vaccinated list growing and the case numbers shrinking should be met with rolling back restrictions ASAP. Full normality... Aye maybe a few month for that but absolutely no reason not to be rolling back slowly from post Xmas 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, mizfit said: Speaking of which, I notice Cheltenham racecourse is being given a contract to act as a vaccine rollout place. Take a guess who owns it? The Jockey Club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Manifesto said: So even the yanks haven't yet approved it Not for me this one. ETA the lassie on the transistor was vague as Hell on its 'trials' and effectiveness. Love that you're basing your analysis of the most important vaccine of our lifetimes on info passed on by "yon lassie on the transistor". All for the SG making this mandatory to use certain services/go on holiday, stops morons like you from killing people and probably makes your head explode at the same time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I think it takes a couple of months after the second dose for it to work, so 4 months in total. Just in time for the Euros hopefully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I think it takes a couple of months after the second dose for it to work, so 4 months in total. Just in time for the Euros hopefully. UEFA are making a decision on each stadium capacity in early March btw. The amount of fans allowed to attend can be reduced after this date, but cannot be increased. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Fair fucks to the scientists involved. However, i think we are forgetting that responsibility now moves from these scientists to the UK government who are absolutely fucking hopeless 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Just to add to my previous, the vaccinated list growing and the case numbers shrinking should be met with rolling back restrictions ASAP. Full normality... Aye maybe a few month for that but absolutely no reason not to be rolling back slowly from post Xmas They don't work straight away, the restrictions will still be based on the infection rate till Spring at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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