Bairnardo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: One thing that will get the middle-class anti-vaxxers changing their minds is if countries make it mandatory to have the vaccine before before they go off on their skiing holiday. Qantas have set the ball rolling on this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 This. So much this. The last few months have affected us all in different ways, most of them negative. I've been getting more and more pissed off with people starting to ignore restrictions and precautions because, well basically they're bored with this pandemic. That we are seeing all the Governments basically throwing their hands in the air and saying, "we might as well open up for Xmas, as you lot are going to fúck the restrictions off anyway," shows that this country is absolutely devoid of any sense of common purpose. Sadly, I've had a major difference of opinion with a few family members, including Mrs WRK over this. Her parents are both in their seventies, and her auntie is too. She is quite happy wit the idea of having them over, as well as Rosettes No 1 and 2 plus spouses/kids despite: 1. My working in a Prison which is classed as an outbreak site, 2. Her (and her staff) going in and out of clients' houses cleaning, 3. Rosette No. 1 working (midwife) in Hospitals and the community, 4. None of the in-laws being in brilliant health anyway. She went apeshit, accusing me of being a miserable cúnt, when I suggested it might be better to ensure that we get to see Family in the future, rather than risk them for what is basically a Sunday Dinner. Rosettes No 2 (and Husband) and 3 agree with me, but No 2 doesn't want to upset her Mum by saying that Grandaughter 1 can't come and open her presents at ours. Said Granddaughter is more than onboard with the idea of being safe and sticking to the rules, and understands Christmas will be different this year. I am not looking forward to the "festive" season. Or being locked down for the entirety of January. I've had similar "discussions" with my wife - made it clear that I'm just not doing it no matter how much adult step-children moan about it. To be honest, if it wasn't for Covid I'd have suggested that they do Christmas dinner instead - but that would go down like a lead balloon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 55 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: If you’ve discussed it properly then I’m not sure it is flippant. It’s up to him and you. He is housebound as it is with COPD,88 and he is also undergoing radiation therapy for bowel cancer. So on the ine hand it seems grossly irresposnsible as if he gets the virus I wouldn't fancy his chances but as he says himself says he doesn't fancy his chances long term anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Devon Loch would be a more apt Grand National horse to reference in this instance.Indeed it would- I fucked that one up, didn't I? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The cranky covid denier - nah - it couldn't be... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markka Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 One thing that will get the middle-class anti-vaxxers changing their minds is if countries make it mandatory to have the vaccine before before they go off on their skiing holiday. Undoubtedly. I know plenty of folk who are sceptical of Covid, and wary of the vaccine. Reckon all of them would take it if it meant they could get away for their holidays overseas.In that situation, I'd be interested to see how many hardcore anti-vaxxers would hold their nerve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The supermarkets and shops in Kirkcaldy are heaving too. Centre of Edinburgh was very quiet today, given we’re on the run up to Christmas. Trains were dead. Me and one other person on my carriage on the way through. Me and four other people on the way back.Wife works in Debenhams in Dundee - they had customers in today who had travelled from Glasgow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 NS may come under some pressure after BJs announcement re football fans, but I can't think from who. Only Dave Cormack at Aberdeen has been vocal about the issue. The other clubs have said very little. The SFA / JRG would appear to have their own agenda re the whole issue. The non-league clubs' #letfansin camps has been ignored by all.Sportsound seem to continually push it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Markka said: Undoubtedly. I know plenty of folk who are sceptical of Covid, and wary of the vaccine. Reckon all of them would take it if it meant they could get away for their holidays overseas. In that situation, I'd be interested to see how many hardcore anti-vaxxers would hold their nerve. Sceptical in w hat way? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NotThePars Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: During the first lockdown I used the in laws to watch the kids. Same this time round although I think it may be allowed now.... Regardless, if that gets banned, I will still do it. 1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said: I go to my grandads every Saturday and sit indoors with him and have a cup of tea despite him being in a bubble with my mum. If you want to accuse me of me being too kindhearted then go ahead I can take it. He's also free and easy with codeine. ETA we have discussed the risks and he says he would rather take his chances than sit in alone. I guess that's a flippant thing to say when your not gasping for breath on a ventilator with no family around but it's up to him. 1 hour ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: I had to sneak across the berlin wall to get some paint from B&Q in Cumbernauld as the Falkirk store didn't have what I needed, next week I've got 2 clock & collects from screwfix , one in Linlithgow the other in Bathgate, again , Falkirk store out of stock. come to think of it it does sound like the cold war a bit? if anyone else needs some goods from the west let me know , take a small cut for myself obviously since i'm dodging the stasi 1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: When I was in isolation, I broke my curfew 1 hour early. Sue me. 1 hour ago, Markka said: I have, on a few occasions at least. Examples: I've changed my "bubble" a few times to allow for meeting folk in their homes. Whether that was specifically against the law at the time I don't know. My brother turned 30 in the summer and we had about a dozen or so people outside for drinks to celebrate. Went round to a mates for some drinks a few weeks ago, four of us from four households. 1 hour ago, Distant Doonhamer said: I'm an absolute rebel. I once only spent 19 seconds washing my hands. Thanks. I've submitted all of these to the Procurator Fiscal and you'll be hearing from the Crown in due course. Better get Peter Dow on the phone for some advice. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markka Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Sceptical in w hat way?Generally about the severity of the virus and the severity of the restrictions. None of them are outright covid-deniers as far as I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Qantas have set the ball rolling on this i seen that on twitter, the state of the replies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03326-w Just been reading this article on the Oxford vaccine. Within the article it states that Moderna and Pfizer only tested participants who showed symptoms. The Oxford/AZ participants were all swabbed every week. I don't want to piss on anyone's chips, but that looks to me like a fundamental flaw in the Moderna/Pfizer trials. I'm not qualified on this area but it stands to reason that asymptomatic infection could just as easily have occurred during those trials, yet it will have gone entirely undetected. I hope there's a reasonable explanation here, but suddenly those hight efficacy rates look a bit shaky. Now,of course the measurement of success with these vaccines is that it prevents people becoming seriously ill rather than completely eliminating the possibility of catching covid, which all three managed to achieve. But it almost looks a cynical way of boosting the results. Edited November 23, 2020 by Michael W 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Ach, the Sturg has had an outstanding period since March though, so if she says 'go oot and get pure bevied for 5 days, and don't worry, you can make it up with a full lockdown in January', she must be doing the right thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions. Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings care homes testing track and trace allowing large crowds blaming some failings on Westminster spread in hospitals deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions. Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings care homes testing track and trace allowing large crowds blaming some failings on Westminster spread in hospitals deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions. Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings care homes testing track and trace allowing large crowds blaming some failings on Westminster spread in hospitals deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly. You know Track and Trace is an English thing right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions. Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings care homes testing track and trace allowing large crowds blaming some failings on Westminster spread in hospitals deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly. So close, you missed out the Nike conference. Silver medal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Steven W said: NS may come under some pressure after BJs announcement re football fans, but I can't think from who. Only Dave Cormack at Aberdeen has been vocal about the issue. The other clubs have said very little. The SFA / JRG would appear to have their own agenda re the whole issue. The non-league clubs' #letfansin camps has been ignored by all. ICT had 300 fans in on Saturday. Edited November 23, 2020 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, MixuFruit said: What did our track and trace do wrong? I know its incredibly petty but it's Test and Protect ffs. No wonder folk get scammed because every scam I've heard has always said "I'm calling from test and trace" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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