Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Academically Deficient]

15 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Was it this guy?

 

 

Sorry, I didn't catch his name, but from the general tone of that, it could've been, yes.

[Granny Danger]

It’s difficult to follow every post on here, but are there posters who would definitely NOT get vaccinated?

 

[PWL]

8 hours ago, peasy23 said:

Missus got a text today to tell her to isolate until 2nd December after one of the girls in her work tested positive yesterday.

*Sent from my Galaxy A71 as I lie sprawled in our king size bed, while she is shacked up in the spare room.

Woke up to a similar text today. Apparent contact on Thursday when I'd gone into office for a few hours. Nearest person to me at work is a minimum of 20 m away so could even be someone on different floor. Only other thing I can think of is train for 10 mins. 

Ironic when my Mrs is a mental health nurse who's been doing shifts in red wards. 

Only plus is that, as a weegie, I wasn't going anywhere anyway. 

[Wee Bully]

The council area thing has me a bit confused too, i can drive 4 miles from South Lanarkshire to North Lanarkshire to do my grocery shopping or stay in my council area and drive 11.5 miles, 

What is it that has you confused?

Lack of comprehension about borders?

[101]

35 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

It’s difficult to follow every post on here, but are there posters who would definitely NOT get vaccinated?

 

There are some rockets in here but that would take the biscuit

[Szamo's_Ammo]

28% of pupils at Cumbrian school test positive for Coronavirus

Sedbergh School in Cumbria has carried out mass testing of pupils and staff following an outbreak of Coronavirus. The head master Dan Harrison published this letter to parents on Friday 20 November:

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"The results show that we had 149 positive cases amongst the pupils who took the test, this represents 28% of the whole School."

Results received for staff so far have been negative but the letter states they have not received all of these results as yet (which seems odd as they have received all of the results for pupils. Don't know what has happened there!)

The head master of the £36,000 per year co-educational boarding school is assuring locals that there is no need to be alarmed.
 

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The number of pupils who tested positive is a clear concern but we are pleased that results received indicate staff have been able to avoid infection and give us confidence in this area of our Covid protection measures, and confidence that there is a low risk of spread into the wider local community.

It's only over a quarter of their pupils, most of whom are asymptomatic, who were found to be carrying this virus so it is all fine. 

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“They are frustrated because most of them are either well or asymptomatic,” said Mr Fleck.

“They want to get on with their lives just like we all do, they want to get on with their studies, they want to socialise with their friends.

https://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/18886403.sedbergh-school-says-very-confident-action-taken-will-limit-spread-covid-19/

Will shocking figures like this make it more or less likely that the Westminster or devolved governments will begin proper surveillance in schools? Surely mass testing in even just one local authority would make sense to get a decent idea of the real prevalence of Covid within this setting.

Mass testing of staff and pupils is being considered by the Welsh Government. Surely this should have been done months ago?

28% in one school! Wow!

[Wee Bully]

28% of pupils at Cumbrian school test positive for Coronavirus

Sedbergh School in Cumbria has carried out mass testing of pupils and staff following an outbreak of Coronavirus. The head master Dan Harrison published this letter to parents on Friday 20 November:

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"The results show that we had 149 positive cases amongst the pupils who took the test, this represents 28% of the whole School."

Results received for staff so far have been negative but the letter states they have not received all of these results as yet (which seems odd as they have received all of the results for pupils. Don't know what has happened there!)

 

The head master of the £36,000 per year co-educational boarding school is assuring locals that there is no need to be alarmed.

 

The number of pupils who tested positive is a clear concern but we are pleased that results received indicate staff have been able to avoid infection and give us confidence in this area of our Covid protection measures, and confidence that there is a low risk of spread into the wider local community.

It’s interesting:

 

1. It’s a boarding school, so different risks to a normal school, and

2. No staff have tested positive, so actually supports the view that kids don’t really pass it on (and even I don’t believe that)

 

Other than that, it absolutely supports your normal mewling arguments...

[MuckleMoo]

Received a letter from the government asking to take part in the Covid 19 infection survey.

Initial visit consists of a swab and blood sample then a visit once every week for 4 weeks to take further swabs. After that it is a visit every month for 11 months where again they will take bloods and a swab.

Good thing is that I'll be getting tested on a regular basis and will be told the results. Bonus is that I get a £25 voucher for every visit

[Szamo's_Ammo]

15 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Results received for staff so far have been negative but the letter states they have not received all of these results as yet (which seems odd as they have received all of the results for pupils. Don't know what has happened there!)

The head master of the £36,000 per year co-educational boarding school is assuring locals that there is no need to be alarmed.
 
It's only over a quarter of their pupils, most of whom are asymptomatic, who were found to be carrying this virus so it is all fine. 
https://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/18886403.sedbergh-school-says-very-confident-action-taken-will-limit-spread-covid-19/
Will shocking figures like this make it more or less likely that the Westminster or devolved governments will begin proper surveillance in schools? Surely mass testing in even just one local authority would make sense to get a decent idea of the real prevalence of Covid within this setting.
Mass testing of staff and pupils is being considered by the Welsh Government. Surely this should have been done months ago?
28% in one school! Wow!

It’s interesting:

1. It’s a boarding school, so different risks to a normal school, and
2. No staff have tested positive, so actually supports the view that kids don’t really pass it on (and even I don’t believe that)

Other than that, it absolutely supports your normal mewling arguments...

Shocked that anyone could spin this development as anything other than deeply concerning.

Do you campaign for UsForThem?

Spoiler

 

Edited November 22, 2020 by Szamo's_Ammo

[Wee Bully]

Shocked that anyone could spin this development as anything other than deeply concerning.
Do you campaign for UsForThem?
 
Spoiler

 

Shocking that you didn’t realise that it doesn’t support your normal mewling stance. Thanks for playing.

[Wee Willie]

13 hours ago, madwullie said:

The wife is an actual biomedical scientist for the NHS and just looked at me with incredulity when I said it would be good to have had the vaccine by March. "are you going to take it?" 

Bearing in mind I'm pretty high risk were I to catch it. There's not enough face-palm emojis to describe my feelings  

I'm the same

10 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

If you are at risk then take the vaccine as soon as you can.  

The technology for this vaccine has been developing over many years. The main accelerator of the development has been limitless funding. The science is sound.

Can I have that in writing? If I take it and it all goes tits up then at least P&B could sue.

 

[Gus Setsniffer]

46 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

What is it that has you confused?

Lack of comprehension about borders?

the whole ''council area'' and the request to stay in it, i presume they mean stay very local like the first lockdown, just curious because EK, Cambuslang, Rutherglen, they're all weegies as far as i'm concerned, but are part of the same local council as myself, yet i'm far closer to Motherwell than any of those places, but i'd be going out of my area if i went to Motherwell, add to that, last week the country was divided up by healthboards and the whole of Lanarkshire was on the same level, and still is, its all hypothetical really, as i won't probably travel to any of the places mentioned .

[welshbairn]

11 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

If you are at risk then take the vaccine as soon as you can.  

The technology for this vaccine has been developing over many years. The main accelerator of the development has been limitless funding. The science is sound.

Agreed, but I'd be slightly concerned if they authorise a vaccine before it's reached the 164 infections threshold, sounds like cutting corners. Pfizer and Moderna are both on 90 odd. It shouldn't take long with the second wave trundling along nicely.

P.S. Could be that's what they're planning anyway, it's not clear from this but they mention the 3rd week of November as potentially a milestone.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

P.P.S. Apparently they can stop the trial part of the way through if it's proving to very effective as those two have, as it's considered to be unethical to keep giving the placebo to half the volunteers. From that I'm assuming that the safety element has already been proven in this and earlier phases. No sign that they intend to stop though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/health/covid-moderna-vaccine.html

Edited November 22, 2020 by welshbairn

[sparky88]

9 hours ago, virginton said:

Let's not forget that the Westminster government were trying to cattle prod people back into the office to keep Pret and the Daily Mail in business just three months ago in August. There hasn't actually been a coherent message to undermine by now.

That's true. But at least in August the cases were at a relatively low level. That probably won't be the case at end of December.

 

Really don't understand why Scottish Government doesn't just hold the line and keep the restrictions in place over Xmas period, knowing fine well that they won't be adhered to anyway. That way, politicians can't be held personally responsible for future rising cases but people can choose to do what they want. 

Relaxing restrictions will leave political opponents the ability to attack them for COVID deaths in January,and I'm not sure how they can argue that it wouldn't be their fault given their rhetoric up until now. 

[RH33]

10 hours ago, Lex said:

This fucking lockdown man.
Got me arguing with an old friend.
One of us broke the law today.
IKEA Braehead... what council area? Glasgow City or Renfrewshire?

PS The right answer is gods country (not Glasgow).

Was there not a long running battle between to two authorities as to who was to get the rates from Braehead?

[NotThePars]

1 hour ago, MuckleMoo said:

Received a letter from the government asking to take part in the Covid 19 infection survey.

Initial visit consists of a swab and blood sample then a visit once every week for 4 weeks to take further swabs. After that it is a visit every month for 11 months where again they will take bloods and a swab.

Good thing is that I'll be getting tested on a regular basis and will be told the results. Bonus is that I get a £25 voucher for every visit

One of the older boys from my work has had a couple of visits so far. He was saying that apparently the test subjects are picked from the voters roll? 

[Fife Saint]

I suspect the answer to the question about Braehead rates will be 'nobody' soon.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

That's true. But at least in August the cases were at a relatively low level. That probably won't be the case at end of December.
 
Really don't understand why Scottish Government doesn't just hold the line and keep the restrictions in place over Xmas period, knowing fine well that they won't be adhered to anyway. That way, politicians can't be held personally responsible for future rising cases but people can choose to do what they want. 
Relaxing restrictions will leave political opponents the ability to attack them for COVID deaths in January,and I'm not sure how they can argue that it wouldn't be their fault given their rhetoric up until now. 

Aye enough fuckin insulting folks intelligence. Something is either safe and/or essential enough to be allowed or it isn’t.

[Distant Doonhamer]

Can I have that in writing? If I take it and it all goes tits up then at least P&B could sue.  

 

Yes. That was in writing. It’s my considered opinion having read a great deal about it and having applied my knowledge as a former clinician in critical care. Feel free to disagree and/or sue.

 

 

[Granny Danger]

2 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Yes. That was in writing. It’s my considered opinion having read a great deal about it and having applied my knowledge as a former doctor in critical care. Feel free to disagree and/or sue.

As someone with no medical training, no scientific background and all my money tied up in foreign tax havens I concur.  Sue and be damned.