Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[KingRocketman II]

1 hour ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Rent free.

so you are the one that still uses this.....

[LongTimeLurker]

56 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

And what if the situation then puts areas in the Level 4 bracket?

They never learn.

Think that's a very strong indication that the first over-80s and health professionals will be getting Pfizer vaccine jags by then and they see approval as a formality. Think they have 320k shots lined up for early December as the first batch for that in a Scottish context. Once needles starting hitting highly wrinkled upper arms the political optics on this will start to change. Level three versus level four probably doesn't make much difference in the larger scheme of things in terms of actually preventing tranmission given what's still left open in both cases. It was mainly about being seen to do something in the absence of a vaccine.

Edited November 20, 2020 by LongTimeLurker

[Todd_is_God]

22 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

I'm glad to see her approval ratings are high.

I've been an SNP voter since I was old enough to vote and I like Sturgeon in general. If her perceived good handling of the pandemic ultimately leads to a landslide for the SNP next year and independence then that is fine by me.

As you said, defending everything a party or politician does is bizarre behaviour. Those who are pro-independence who do this are every bit as weird as unionists who defend everything said or done by Boris and the little twerp Douglas Ross.

Overall, I believe Sturgeon is the best current candidate to lead Scotland but should be held to account and scrutinised like every other politician, more so as she is the First Minister.

Taking personal like or dislike of a politician aside, i'm slightly surprised that almost ¾ of the people asked looked at, off the top of my head:

The initial secrecy of the Nike conference

Giving the green light to the Celtic v Rangers game

Allowing a Lewis Capaldi gig

The care home shambles

The exams fiasco

And believe those warrant the view that the SG have handled the last 8 months well.

No UK government have handled this "well"

[mizfit]

After a 4 day break worth having a look particularly at those Teams who are relegated at 6.00pm.
Cases in Scotland per 100K diagnosed in the 7 days up to 13th November were 141.5    As of just released to 17th November we are at 140.7 or a tiny drop of 0.56%    On paper does look like progress had stalled. 
Relegated
East Ayrshire 172.1 to 150.8  Another sustained drop of 12.37 %   and as I indicated above I think they are unfortunate to be relegated.
East Dunbartonshire 224.6 to 175.8  A suprising late drop of 21.93  Came too late for them to avoid the chop.  Unfortunate.
East Renfrewshire  197.8 to 188.4  Small drop of 4.75%   So Tier 4 was predictable and justified.
Glasgow City 275.6 to 251.9 Another welcome drop of 8.59%  was far too late.
North Lanarkshire   237.6 to 242.8  A rise of 2.18%   So you do wonder if it will ever come down.
Renfrewshire 241.8 to 261.3  A rise of 8.06%   Similar to the Lankers
South Ayrshire 159 to 159.8 A rise of 0.50%   Were borderline I suspect but not currently helping themselves
South Lanarkshire 229.3 to 229.3   No Change.     Much like its neighbour needed relegated.
Stirling 167.7 to 214.4  A rise of 27.84% continuing its ascent to be the worst performing LA in Scotland currently.    I called Tier 4 correct.
West Dunbartonshire 181.0 to 156.3 Another decrease of 13.64%  and were mightily unlucky to hit Tier 4 imo
West Lothian  158.4 to 191.2 Rise of 20.70%.   ScotGov must have seen this coming and called it correct.
Promoted
East Lothian 60.7 to 54.2  Decrease of 10.70%   I called their rightful promotion correct.
Midlothian 58.4 to 76.8 Increase of 31.50%   Kind of blotting their progress before the tier 2 kicks in.  This will need watched.
Previously Relegated & Progress
Angus 84.3 to 92.1  Increase of 9.25%    Need some shift the other way before next Tuesday or stuck in Tier 3
Fife 143.0 to 140.5  Decrease of 1.74%  Not before time as was sliding to Tier 4 for 1st Brechin City style double relegation.
P&K 88.8 to 108.6  Increase of 22.29%   Quite worrying and no chance of getting back to tier 2 on these numbers.
Finally some random Authorities
Dundee 138 to 120.5  Decrease of 12.68%     Dundee looks quite likely on this progress to exit tier 3 within a couple of weeks.
Clackmannanshire  99.0 to 163 Increase of 64.64%   Very small authority but that trajectory only gets you towards tier 4
 
 

Perths numbers seemed to have been skewed by over 100 pupils self isolating at a local secondary school.

There’s also a few rumours of a gym not following Covid protocols but that’s another story.

[die hard doonhamer]

Just now, mizfit said:

 

 

Perths numbers seemed to have been skewed by over 100 pupils self isolating at a local secondary school.

There’s also a few rumours of a gym not following Covid protocols but that’s another story.

 

 

What gym? I've not heard this.

[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Taking personal like or dislike of a politician aside, i'm slightly surprised that almost ¾ of the people asked looked at, off the top of my head:

The initial secrecy of the Nike conference

Giving the green light to the Celtic v Rangers game

Allowing a Lewis Capaldi gig

The care home shambles

The exams fiasco

And believe those warrant the view that the SG have handled the last 8 months well.

No UK government have handled this "well"

[PWL]

Is there a way to set this thread to mute every contribution with the exception of @superbigal?

P&Bs own John King. 

 

[Forest_Fifer]

What absolute drivel. If this crew of incompetents can find money to allow the UK to continue lording it over and killing wee brown people, and can throw billions at their mates for PPE which is either non-existent or unusable, they can sure as fúck find money to adequately remunerate those workers who enable the country to function despite their leaders' incompetence.
Absolutely no fúcking surprise who's approved of your latest bitter spew.

I found it interesting that a think tank reckons that the pay freeze will save approx £15 million. And 2 days ago Boris announced an increase in defence spending of £16 million.
No point in increasing defence spending if you end up with nothing worth defending.

[welshbairn]

Covid gets such a bad rep, time for a good news story.

 

[Honest Saints Fan]

28 minutes ago, mizfit said:

 

 

Perths numbers seemed to have been skewed by over 100 pupils self isolating at a local secondary school.

There’s also a few rumours of a gym not following Covid protocols but that’s another story.

 

 

Crieff High have half the school off too, self isolating. I know because every fucking day a parent asks on the local Facebook group who is sending their child to school, absolutely desperate to post the name of the child that has Covid. 

[Granny Danger]

4 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said:

I found it interesting that a think tank reckons that the pay freeze will save approx £15 million. And 2 days ago Boris announced an increase in defence spending of £16 million.
No point in increasing defence spending if you end up with nothing worth defending.

The Tories and their pals have lots to defend including the money they have fleeced from the public purse during the pandemic.

[Sergeant Wilson]

2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Covid gets such a bad rep, time for a good news story.

 

I know I've cut down.

[superbigal]

Is there a way to set this thread to mute every contribution with the exception of [mention=20429]superbigal[/mention]?
P&Bs own John King. 
 

Trust me I have some shockers like the rest of the mob

[welshbairn]

Quote

MINISTERS hope to vaccinate around one million Scots by the end of January in one of the biggest logistical challenges in living memory.

Health Secretary Jeane Freeman said the Scottish Government plans to vaccinate 4.4 million Scots over the age of 18 in the coming months.

She said ministers hoped to begin the vaccination programme in the first week of December, with 320 doses expected that month.

Ms Freeman said: "Scotland has an excellent track record of vaccinations. 

"But this is to be one of the biggest civilian logistical challenges in our lifetime."

Ministers hope the delivery programme will take from December until spring next year to complete. 

The first wave will be carried out from December to February. 

This will see frontline health and social care staff, older residents in care homes, care home staff, those aged over 80, unpaid carers and personal assistants and those who will be delivering the programme all vaccinated. 

Those aged over 65 and those under 65 who are at an additional clinical risk will then vaccinated, before it is offered to the wider population. 

Ms Freeman said Scotland will need more than 2,000 vaccinators and support staff by the end of January. 

This means around one million people will be able to vaccinated by that time. 

She said: "We are hopeful that over the coming weeks into 2021 we will have more than one vaccine available to us, so that we can, with minimum delay, vaccinate as many people as possible as quickly as possible."

However Ms Freeman stressed there are still a number of unknowns, such as which vaccines will be approved for use.

The Scottish Government hopes to be able to vaccinate in locations such as GP practices and care homes. 

Some people could be vaccinated at home if necessary.

Ms Freeman said the first vaccines will require two doses three to four weeks apart. 

"It's possible that further booster doses and even an annual programme might be required," she said.

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18882805.coronavirus-recap-scotland-vaccine-plans-outlined-priority-list-set/

[Todd_is_God]

35 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Aye, great. We've done pure shite, but at least we aren't England, eh?

Absolute "wee country" mentality.

[betting competition]

58 minutes ago, superbigal said:

After a 4 day break worth having a look particularly at those Teams who are relegated at 6.00pm.

Cases in Scotland per 100K diagnosed in the 7 days up to 13th November were 141.5    As of just released to 17th November we are at 140.7 or a tiny drop of 0.56%    On paper does look like progress had stalled. 

Relegated

East Ayrshire 172.1 to 150.8  Another sustained drop of 12.37 %   and as I indicated above I think they are unfortunate to be relegated.

East Dunbartonshire 224.6 to 175.8  A suprising late drop of 21.93  Came too late for them to avoid the chop.  Unfortunate.

East Renfrewshire  197.8 to 188.4  Small drop of 4.75%   So Tier 4 was predictable and justified.

Glasgow City 275.6 to 251.9 Another welcome drop of 8.59%  was far too late.

North Lanarkshire   237.6 to 242.8  A rise of 2.18%   So you do wonder if it will ever come down.

Renfrewshire 241.8 to 261.3  A rise of 8.06%   Similar to the Lankers

South Ayrshire 159 to 159.8 A rise of 0.50%   Were borderline I suspect but not currently helping themselves

South Lanarkshire 229.3 to 229.3   No Change.     Much like its neighbour needed relegated.

Stirling 167.7 to 214.4  A rise of 27.84% continuing its ascent to be the worst performing LA in Scotland currently.    I called Tier 4 correct.

West Dunbartonshire 181.0 to 156.3 Another decrease of 13.64%  and were mightily unlucky to hit Tier 4 imo

West Lothian  158.4 to 191.2 Rise of 20.70%.   ScotGov must have seen this coming and called it correct.

Promoted

East Lothian 60.7 to 54.2  Decrease of 10.70%   I called their rightful promotion correct.

Midlothian 58.4 to 76.8 Increase of 31.50%   Kind of blotting their progress before the tier 2 kicks in.  This will need watched.

Previously Relegated & Progress

Angus 84.3 to 92.1  Increase of 9.25%    Need some shift the other way before next Tuesday or stuck in Tier 3

Fife 143.0 to 140.5  Decrease of 1.74%  Not before time as was sliding to Tier 4 for 1st Brechin City style double relegation.

P&K 88.8 to 108.6  Increase of 22.29%   Quite worrying and no chance of getting back to tier 2 on these numbers.

Finally some random Authorities

Dundee 138 to 120.5  Decrease of 12.68%     Dundee looks quite likely on this progress to exit tier 3 within a couple of weeks.

Clackmannanshire  99.0 to 163 Increase of 64.64%   Very small authority but that trajectory only gets you towards tier 4

 

 

Excellent as always, could you give me figures for Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire. I don't think Aberdeen has went up that much in the last few days but seeing the daily numbers for Aberdeenshire has over 30 cases today so maybe now they are getting nearer tier 3. 

[Mark Connolly]

22 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Covid gets such a bad rep, time for a good news story.

 

Are you saying COVID is taking the piss out of Scotland?

[welshbairn]

Just now, Mark Connolly said:

Are you saying COVID is taking the piss out of Scotland?

Aye, the mad yoon.

[Wee Willie]

1 hour ago, John MacLean said:

Doubtful. If Todd was half as clever as he thinks he is he would still be twice as clever as he actually is. 

That's a lovely reply but I'm still working it oot

[tamthebam]

3 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

I don't particularly dislike Leitch.

He is just symptomatic of the type of people who climb to the top of the greasy pole in the public sector.

Usually bullshitters who are good at PR to cover up their inadequacies elsewhere.

They are the epitome of the Peter principle.

Not just the public sector 

There are plenty of Dido Hardings in the Private sector.