vikingTON 15,636 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, madwullie said: I don't particularly understand it either. But it gives an indication of the mood in the country in general People support lockdowns because they still believe that they will 'solve the problem' and reckon it will punish other people's behaviour far more than themselves. When the reality hits that they are in it for the long haul and their own special pleading interests get binned as well they will change their tune. Even if you were a government minister in favour of a lockdown you'd be unwise to bank on that public support IMO. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melanius Mullarkey 22,908 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said: That's fine and dandy, but we're not in Europe and wouldn't be able to even join with our deficit of 7 and a bit billion. What a zloty shite. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshbairn 18,847 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said: Which currency would we be using, and who would our lender of last resort be? Whatever we choose and our lender of last resort will be the 10% of the Bank of England that we'll ship up to Inverness Castle*, backed by the oil reserves. *f**k Edinburgh and Glasgow 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markka 246 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Which currency would we be using, and who would our lender of last resort be?The P&B Pound. Which only comes in £500 notes. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFCinthearea 120 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, virginton said: People support lockdowns because they still believe that they will 'solve the problem' and reckon it will punish other people's behaviour far more than themselves. When the reality hits that they are in it for the long haul and their own special pleading interests get binned as well they will change their tune. Even if you were a government minister in favour of a lockdown you'd be unwise to bank on that public support IMO. Lockdowns don't work. I think that's now been proven. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeant Wilson 21,998 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Ive just been told to isolate for 2 weeks, fantastic Many will agree. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H Wragg 687 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeenshire/2601070/soft-play-centre-owner-says-she-will-endure-fines-to-reopen-if-guidance-not-issued-in-time/?fbclid=IwAR0cPlnvfhe4ZW0sM8711r1p9PAvlSpg52BzoLF0wVmBDBwYLIWFnER9TMs This is why we need to stop using fines and starting using truncheons to the face. Presumably her liability insurance with not be worth a f**k if she opens against government advice.A bit of a risky strategy in somewhere like a soft play centre I'd have thought. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Szamo's_Ammo 6,917 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Tier 1 plus now. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vikingTON 15,636 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said: Lockdowns don't work. I think that's now been proven. Well a March-style 'lockdown' might work in terms of bringing down cases a bit - though given the season there'd be a question mark even about that - but the costs are too disastrous to attempt again. What's coming down the chute now wouldn't even do that: closing nail bars and letting pubs sell coffee and soft drinks only while you're still cramming weans into schools at full capacity at level four is not a credible public health intervention. It's just a government cherry-picking what it wants to keep going without any credible basis for those restrictions. The case rates will carry on regardless and we will - once again - get the worst of all outcomes. Edited October 28, 2020 by vikingTON 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael W 2,726 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Covid Marshalls! I'd forgotten all about the unemployed nightclub bouncers. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vikingTON 15,636 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Tier 1 plus now. That simplified and streamlined system is working out well I see. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boostin' Kev 2,190 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, virginton said: How big is the venue? The local authority gym I use has got a booking system app: I've seen up to 33 available spaces which would be wild if they were all actually booked. It could probably only get about 20 people maximum without breaching regulations. There's only about five or six people whenever I'm in it so perhaps people choosing to steer clear of them for now is the bigger issue. If there's demand then you could increase the price on a short term basis to avoid closure. It's a warehouse which is part of the problem in terms of upkeep and I think they had a large proportion of members that liked the group sessions both fitness and yoga, very community minded place. The individual training hasn't worked so well for them although what they did with it was excellent imo. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Todd_is_God 2,099 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, virginton said: People support lockdowns because they still believe that they will 'solve the problem' and reckon it will punish other people's behaviour far more than themselves. When the reality hits that they are in it for the long haul and their own special pleading interests get binned as well they will change their tune. Even if you were a government minister in favour of a lockdown you'd be unwise to bank on that public support IMO. I'd be in favour of forcing those who actively want a lockdown to stay at home for a bit once this is all done. If they lost their job / had to live off of Universal Credit as a result of not being able to attend well that would be a shame. No doubt they'd find some way of claiming that was selfish and unfair without any sense of irony at all. Edited October 28, 2020 by Todd_is_God 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshbairn 18,847 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said: That's fine and dandy, but we're not in Europe and wouldn't be able to even join with our deficit of 7 and a bit billion. From a quick look our National debt to GDP ratio is projected be about 80%, the EU's is 79.5%, so not a problem there. Our budget deficit is projected to be 8%, the average of the Euro countries is 8.5, so not a problem there either. Covid will have changed everything of course, but likely not in a major way to the differentials. Edited October 28, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Szamo's_Ammo 6,917 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, virginton said: That simplified and streamlined system is working out well I see. Jason Leitch hastily working on a Scottish equivalent. I'll go for Tier 1 Max. -1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super_carson 620 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Jason Leitch hastily working on a Scottish equivalent. I'll go for Tier 1 Max. What about Tier 1 Premium? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GNU_Linux 2,167 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Jason Leitch hastily working on a Scottish equivalent. I'll go for Tier 1 Max.Tier 1: director's cut edition. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tynierose 17,176 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Tier one : Clownshoes crayon covid catastrophe. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highlandcowden 475 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Marshmallo said: My spidey sense tell me this is gonna get fuckin tasty baby! highland councillors,some of our societys greatest minds 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Szamo's_Ammo 6,917 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Tier 4: With a Vengeance for Lanarkshire. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
