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[DAFC.]

I'm positive Eid was around same time those right-wing lunatics were doing conga lines down in England to celebrate VE day. Yet Muslims were told there would be harsh punishments if they dared venture out. 

[Marshmallo]

16 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Obviously the science says you cannot catch COVID 19 on Christmas Day.

That's fair enough but what are The Guys saying? Presumably they've Looked Into it.

[invergowrie arab]

35 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

This "To save Christmas!" stuff like we are in a Pixar film is wild. Even if it works, why are we signing up for weeks of restrictions with businesses being decimated to save a single day which just happens to have a different name than others?

Save Black Friday 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

25 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Christmas is celebrated by millions of folk who are not Christians.  I am one of them.

Theres an oxymoron there. Why is it a big deal if it centres around a religious festival that you admittedly don’t identify with the religion? 
Plenty other people have had to sacrifice festivals like Eid as mentioned before, people who actually have deep connections to their faith and its adherence, what makes Christians the exception? Sorry but am I f**k going to be happy putting up with a total lock down so a bunch of facebook maws can have a party with their pals on christmas day just like theyve been doing breaking the rules thinking theyre some kind of special exception. Shower of absolute shite. 
All to ‘save’ a day that apparently no one gives a f**k about anyway. f**k christmas.

Edited November 16, 2020 by Inanimate Carbon Rod

[Aladdin]

Would much rather keep gyms open over the next month. Xmas is a load of shite anyway.

Can't believe they aren't looking at a blended model for schools yet.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

9 minutes ago, DAFC. said:

I'm positive Eid was around same time those right-wing lunatics were doing conga lines down in England to celebrate VE day. Yet Muslims were told there would be harsh punishments if they dared venture out. 

It was around the end May - the twenty-somethingth. Not only almost-maximum fasting hours, but no feast to celebrate the end of ramadan.  Sucks to have imaginary friends with arbitrary demands.

[mizfit]

Would much rather keep gyms open over the next month. Xmas is a load of shite anyway.

Can't believe they aren't looking at a blended model for schools yet.

They did until someone opened Gordon Browns coffin up.

[TheScarf]

Can you imagine the meltdown on Facebook from the full time mummies who's who life from September onward revolves around telling everyone they've bought and wrapped all their presents already, their little darlings are so excited to see what Santa brings them, watch loads of Christmas films, see their grannies on Christmas morning etc if there's a lockdown on the Christmas day.

You can go and see your family any time you like, why would it be the end of the world if you couldn't see them on 1 specific day, once in their lifetime?

[Szamo's_Ammo]

1 minute ago, TheScarf said:

Can you imagine the meltdown on Facebook from the full time mummies who's who life from September onward revolves around telling everyone they've bought and wrapped all their presents already, their little darlings are so excited to see what Santa brings them, watch loads of Christmas films, see their grannies on Christmas morning etc if there's a lockdown on the Christmas day.

On the plus side just think of the sentimental and poignant memes they can share over the festive period, now more than ever.

Extra likes if they can share a picture holding grannies hand in the care home.

[Marshmallo]

Christmas day is my favourite day of the year btw but this is purely being done as a vote winner amongst specific demographics. Largely the same demographic who cried about blended learning, believe students are one single entity who are living debauched lifestyles and blame "scum" for case numbers remaining steadfast.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Theres an oxymoron there. Why is it a big deal if it centres around a religious festival that you admittedly don’t identify with the religion? 
Plenty other people have had to sacrifice festivals like Eid as mentioned before, people who actually have deep connections to their faith and its adherence, what makes Christians the exception? Sorry but am I f**k going to be happy putting up with a total lock down so a bunch of facebook maws can have a party with their pals on christmas day just like theyve been doing breaking the rules thinking theyre some kind of special exception. Shower of absolute shite. 

It's absolutely farcical - there's no concerted campaign to open the churches and chapels, or even demands to be able to attend carol concerts. Just, "let us go shopping and get pissed!" What Christmas means now is apparently spending enough to get you into sufficient debt that you daren't upset your employer for the next year as you try to pay down your credit cards.

I fucking hate people.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

It's absolutely farcical - there's no concerted campaign to open the churches and chapels, or even demands to be able to attend carol concerts. Just, "let us go shopping and get pissed!" What Christmas means now is apparently spending enough to get you into sufficient debt that you daren't upset your employer for the next year as you try to pay down your credit cards.
I fucking hate people.

That sums of modern Christmas but you forgot that you must spunk hunners on “ accas”
f**k Christmas it’s cancelled, f**k Facebook f**k john lewis f**k sky f**k disney f**k ladbrokes f**k the p.. oppsie almost got carried away there

[madwullie]

46 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

ICYMI, Eid was absolutely fúcked this year - didn't get all that much coverage.

About 12 hours notice that no family meeting was allowed iirc. 

Crickets  

[WhiteRoseKillie]

7 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

 

That sums of modern Christmas but you forgot that you must spunk hunners on “ accas”
f**k Christmas it’s cancelled, f**k Facebook f**k john lewis f**k sky f**k disney f**k ladbrokes f**k the p.. oppsie almost got carried away there

A few well-picked doubles and trixies normally ease the financial pain chez WRK, but this crowd-free shite has really fucked up my betting mojo.

[Bairnardo]

No moderna vaccines in the UK till easter ish by the sounds of it... Cant see how that matters though really if we have 5 million initial Pfizer to be getting on with plus however many Oxford ones which presumably are sat ready to go.

Still good news none the less.

[superbigal]

On 10/11/2020 at 12:14, superbigal said:

Today is review date so i thought it was worthwhile having a look at how all the Councils are performing in relation to the tier they are in.  Gone with the overall change in the last 8 days of released Data, which i believe is roughly the date the tiers were proposed. So started with period 23rd Oct to 29th October  figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data.  These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days.

 

 

 

 

 

A week on let's have a look at progress.

Overall cases per 100K were 154 when I did this post last Tuesday.   Figures were up to 7th November.

6 Days later and figures to 13th November show a decrease to 141.5 or  8.12%   Suggest R is now between 0.95 & 1.00

I now have the last 14 days of Data for each Council.

Start with the tier 3 Councils and move down to Tier 1    My comments in brackets.  Bold if significant

City Of Edinburgh  Tier 3  86.3 to 86.9 Increase 0.69%   (Reversed slight downward trend to overall increase 0.69%. So Tier 3 is Correct)

Clackmannanshire  Tier 3   131.9 to 99.0  Decrease 24.94% (actually an increase in cases since last week..   Tier 3 for now.)

Dundee City  Tier 3   176.8 to 138.0   Decrease 21.95%  (Same comments as Clack an increase in last week Stay tier 3)

East Ayrshire  Tier 3   220.5 to 172.1    Decrease  21.95%   (A tiny further decrease since last weeks good work.  Unlucky if they now get punted to Tier 4)

East Dunbartonshire  Tier 3   222.8 to 224.6    Increase 0.48%    (Another small rise So Tier 3 no effect must enter Tier 4)

East Lothian   Tier 3   97.1 to 60.7   Decrease 37.48%    (Sustained decreases and really should get promoted to Tier 2)

East Renfrewshire  Tier 3   226.1 to 197.8  Decrease 12.51%   I   (After last weeks scathing comments a good week. Unlucky to have your best week and then get punted into tier 4)

Falkirk   Tier 3    118.7 to 88.3  Decrease 25.61%    (Actually a bad week in Falkirk So Tier 3 has to stay)

Glasgow City  Tier 3   299.5 to 275.6   Decrease 7.97%  (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4)

Inverclyde  Tier 3   72.0 to 101.5    Increase 40.97%  (Reversed much of last weeks huge rises so will be mightily unfortunate to leave tier 3)

Midlothian  Tier 3  97.3 to 58.4   Decrease  39.97%    ( These guys are really following the rules and should get promotion soon to Tier 2 )

North Ayrshire  Tier 3  178.1 to 139.5   Decrease 21.67%   (Some people on West side of country are behaving.  Continuing to drop.  Tier 4 would be a shocker and have little justification.) 

North Lanarkshire  Tier 3  280 to 237.6   Decrease  15.14%    (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4)

Renfrewshire  Tier 3  231.2 to 241.8   Increase 4.58%   (Again their 1st actual decent week but too little too late.  Tier 4 is a must)

South Ayrshire  Tier 3  151.9 to 159.0  Increase 4.67%    (Actually also a very good week but may be too late Could cling on to Tier 3)

South Lanarkshire  Tier 3 317.6 to 229.3  Decrease  27.80%   (A very good fortnight. Still very high number though. Tier 4 tomorrow will still take a bit of explaining)

Stirling Tier 3   77.5 to 167.7   Increase  116.39%  (What is going on in Stirling ?  Hurtling towards obvious Tier 4 out of nowhere!!)

West Dunbartonshire  Tier 3  208 to 181.0  decrease 12.98%%    (Another with a good week so why tier 4 tomorrow would need explained)

West Lothian   Tier 3  181.3 to 158.4  Decrease 12.63%   (Decent week but clearly staying Tier 3)

Fife Tier 2 moved to Tier 3   81.9  to 143   Increase 74.60%   (Fife really needs to screw the nut or it could end up in Tier 4)

Perth & Kinross Tier 2 moved to Tier 3  75.0 to 88.8  Increase 18.40%   (Tier 3 is having an effect decent week)

Angus Tier 2 moved to Tier 3   51.6 to 84.3   Increase 63.37%    (Tier 3 had an impact but not turned the tide yet)

Aberdeen City Tier 2,  44.6 to 55.5    Increase 24.43%      (Bad week and more chance of sliding to tier 3 than 1. But then again "They can Boogie")

Aberdeenshire Tier 2   29.5 to 53.2   Increase 80.33 %   (Similar to the city a real bad week and heading to wrong tier)

Argyll & Bute  Tier 2    57.1 to 31.4   Decrease 45.00%    (Another good week and surely go Tier 1)

Dumfries & Galloway  Tier 2  62.5 to 51.1  Decrease 18.24%     (Good week another similar needed for Tier 1)

Borders  Tier 2  39.8 to 61.5  Increase 54.52%  (moaned they were in tier 2  but now rightly so)

Highland  Tier 1   19.9 to 20.4 Increase 2.51%  (No change Tier 1)

Moray   Tier 1   14.6 to 32.4  Increase 121.92%  (Still tiny number but may be pushed to tier 2 if continues)

Na h-Eileanan Siar  Tier 1   3.7 to 22.5     (Basically was 1 case and now 6   Tier 1 no problem)

Orkney Tier 1   9.0 to 4.5    (Basically was 2 cases and now 1.  Get them in Tier 0)

Shetlands Tier 1   8.7 to 0.0  (Was 2 cases and now 0 cases.  Get them in Tier 0)

 

[accies1874]

Christmas Day is the worst part of the Christmas period.

[btb]

2 hours ago, Ron Aldo said:

 

 

More vaccine news.

 

95% less than Madonna's!

[Granny Danger]

1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Theres an oxymoron there. Why is it a big deal if it centres around a religious festival that you admittedly don’t identify with the religion? 
Plenty other people have had to sacrifice festivals like Eid as mentioned before, people who actually have deep connections to their faith and its adherence, what makes Christians the exception? Sorry but am I f**k going to be happy putting up with a total lock down so a bunch of facebook maws can have a party with their pals on christmas day just like theyve been doing breaking the rules thinking theyre some kind of special exception. Shower of absolute shite. 
All to ‘save’ a day that apparently no one gives a f**k about anyway. f**k christmas.

Are you a Christian?

Do you normally celebrate Christmas?

Will you and your family miss celebrating it if you can’t?

[alta-pete]

33 minutes ago, superbigal said:

A week on let's have a look at progress.

Overall cases per 100K were 154 when I did this post last Tuesday.   Figures were up to 7th November.

6 Days later and figures to 13th November show a decrease to 141.5 or  8.12%   Suggest R is now between 0.95 & 1.00

I now have the last 14 days of Data for each Council.

Start with the tier 3 Councils and move down to Tier 1    My comments in brackets.  Bold if significant

City Of Edinburgh  Tier 3  86.3 to 86.9 Increase 0.69%   (Reversed slight downward trend to overall increase 0.69%. So Tier 3 is Correct)

Clackmannanshire  Tier 3   131.9 to 99.0  Decrease 24.94% (actually an increase in cases since last week..   Tier 3 for now.)

Dundee City  Tier 3   176.8 to 138.0   Decrease 21.95%  (Same comments as Clack an increase in last week Stay tier 3)

East Ayrshire  Tier 3   220.5 to 172.1    Decrease  21.95%   (A tiny further decrease since last weeks good work.  Unlucky if they now get punted to Tier 4)

East Dunbartonshire  Tier 3   222.8 to 224.6    Increase 0.48%    (Another small rise So Tier 3 no effect must enter Tier 4)

East Lothian   Tier 3   97.1 to 60.7   Decrease 37.48%    (Sustained decreases and really should get promoted to Tier 2)

East Renfrewshire  Tier 3   226.1 to 197.8  Decrease 12.51%   I   (After last weeks scathing comments a good week. Unlucky to have your best week and then get punted into tier 4)

Falkirk   Tier 3    118.7 to 88.3  Decrease 25.61%    (Actually a bad week in Falkirk So Tier 3 has to stay)

Glasgow City  Tier 3   299.5 to 275.6   Decrease 7.97%  (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4)

Inverclyde  Tier 3   72.0 to 101.5    Increase 40.97%  (Reversed much of last weeks huge rises so will be mightily unfortunate to leave tier 3)

Midlothian  Tier 3  97.3 to 58.4   Decrease  39.97%    ( These guys are really following the rules and should get promotion soon to Tier 2 )

North Ayrshire  Tier 3  178.1 to 139.5   Decrease 21.67%   (Some people on West side of country are behaving.  Continuing to drop.  Tier 4 would be a shocker and have little justification.) 

North Lanarkshire  Tier 3  280 to 237.6   Decrease  15.14%    (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4)

Renfrewshire  Tier 3  231.2 to 241.8   Increase 4.58%   (Again their 1st actual decent week but too little too late.  Tier 4 is a must)

South Ayrshire  Tier 3  151.9 to 159.0  Increase 4.67%    (Actually also a very good week but may be too late Could cling on to Tier 3)

South Lanarkshire  Tier 3 317.6 to 229.3  Decrease  27.80%   (A very good fortnight. Still very high number though. Tier 4 tomorrow will still take a bit of explaining)

Stirling Tier 3   77.5 to 167.7   Increase  116.39%  (What is going on in Stirling ?  Hurtling towards obvious Tier 4 out of nowhere!!)

West Dunbartonshire  Tier 3  208 to 181.0  decrease 12.98%%    (Another with a good week so why tier 4 tomorrow would need explained)

West Lothian   Tier 3  181.3 to 158.4  Decrease 12.63%   (Decent week but clearly staying Tier 3)

Fife Tier 2 moved to Tier 3   81.9  to 143   Increase 74.60%   (Fife really needs to screw the nut or it could end up in Tier 4)

Perth & Kinross Tier 2 moved to Tier 3  75.0 to 88.8  Increase 18.40%   (Tier 3 is having an effect decent week)

Angus Tier 2 moved to Tier 3   51.6 to 84.3   Increase 63.37%    (Tier 3 had an impact but not turned the tide yet)

Aberdeen City Tier 2,  44.6 to 55.5    Increase 24.43%      (Bad week and more chance of sliding to tier 3 than 1. But then again "They can Boogie")

Aberdeenshire Tier 2   29.5 to 53.2   Increase 80.33 %   (Similar to the city a real bad week and heading to wrong tier)

Argyll & Bute  Tier 2    57.1 to 31.4   Decrease 45.00%    (Another good week and surely go Tier 1)

Dumfries & Galloway  Tier 2  62.5 to 51.1  Decrease 18.24%     (Good week another similar needed for Tier 1)

Borders  Tier 2  39.8 to 61.5  Increase 54.52%  (moaned they were in tier 2  but now rightly so)

Highland  Tier 1   19.9 to 20.4 Increase 2.51%  (No change Tier 1)

Moray   Tier 1   14.6 to 32.4  Increase 121.92%  (Still tiny number but may be pushed to tier 2 if continues)

Na h-Eileanan Siar  Tier 1   3.7 to 22.5     (Basically was 1 case and now 6   Tier 1 no problem)

Orkney Tier 1   9.0 to 4.5    (Basically was 2 cases and now 1.  Get them in Tier 0)

Shetlands Tier 1   8.7 to 0.0  (Was 2 cases and now 0 cases.  Get them in Tier 0)

 

Without getting too technical it looks to me like the NE had it all under control but the swell in Glasgow/Lanarks creates a wave that travels very slowly outwards and the rates of infection, if left unchallenged, simply rise to a level of uniformity across the country after a number of weeks.

Or, another way, nuanced restrictions make f**k all difference. Think King Canute.

And Stirling I think is a bit of an outlier due to a care home in Bannockburn with  45 cases among staff and residents

Edited November 16, 2020 by alta-pete