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1 minute ago, Mr. Alli said:

France are letting 5,000 into games and have been for some time. Does anyone have figures from how many of these people are replacing ones who have died through COVID due to going to the previous match? 

I'm sure there will be a graph somewhere...

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8 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

I woke up this morning with a cough so went on the covid symptom checker thingie and it says either a continuous cough for an hour (nope) or three coughing episodes in 24 hours. Does that mean if I cough 3 times today those are each episodes, or does it mean 3 coughing fits?

I suspect I've just got a common or garden virus off my son but unsure if I should arrange a test.

I had a persistent cough a few weeks ago, so checked the NHS site.

The cough I had wasn't affecting my breathing, and I didn't have any of the other symptoms, so I left it, and the cough is much better - I reckon it was probably an allergy or something.

I'm no expert, obviously - best to keep checking, probably. 

 

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19 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

I woke up this morning with a cough so went on the covid symptom checker thingie and it says either a continuous cough for an hour (nope) or three coughing episodes in 24 hours. Does that mean if I cough 3 times today those are each episodes, or does it mean 3 coughing fits?

I suspect I've just got a common or garden virus off my son but unsure if I should arrange a test.

Coughing fits I would think, but u don't really know. 

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Those fans will be lucky to see Christmas, let alone family, should they contract Covid-19...
That's not true though, is it?

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Those fans will be lucky to see Christmas, let alone family, should they contract Covid-19...
Cmon now

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17 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:
50 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:
Those fans will be lucky to see Christmas, let alone family, should they contract Covid-19...

That's not true though, is it?

Probably not, no.

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1 minute ago, Rob1885 said:
51 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:
Those fans will be lucky to see Christmas, let alone family, should they contract Covid-19...

Cmon now

Well, it won't be to a football match...

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2 hours ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

This is poor Chris from a usually decent poster.
 

The vast majority (if not all) of “this group” have not asked for schools to be closed at any point. They would just like the government to be honest in admitting that they know schools are not “safe” as they have actually been quoted as saying, but they are being kept open despite the clear risk because of the importance of schools to student education and the wider economy.

At some point, this breaks down, however, if keeping schools open causes entire sectors to be closed down / effectively closed down in an 'effort' to control the spread of a virus, of which a large proportion of starting points can be traced back to schools.

Keeping schools fully open has less to do with keeping the economy open and more to do with avoiding a backlash from those who would be understandably upset that their 'sacrifices' in July and August, they were told, were necessary to allow schools to open, only to later be told that really that was pointless as it was schools, rather than their business / employer etc, that was going to be the problem.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to hold the view that while the SG were following 'the science' available at the time - there wasn't really (m)any papers showing school children being big spreaders of the virus - that data has changed, particularly here in the UK where contact tracing shows somewhere in the region of 40% of acute outbreaks can be traced back to education settings (and that around 75% of those are in schools) versus 3% to hospitality venues, and that that requires a change in tactic.

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1 hour ago, MixuFruit said:

I woke up this morning with a cough so went on the covid symptom checker thingie and it says either a continuous cough for an hour (nope) or three coughing episodes in 24 hours. Does that mean if I cough 3 times today those are each episodes, or does it mean 3 coughing fits?

I suspect I've just got a common or garden virus off my son but unsure if I should arrange a test.

I'd just book a slot at the crem, leave out the middle man.

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Just now, welshbairn said:

I'd just book a slot at the crem, leave out the middle man.

I want a viking longboat service tyvm.

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37 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

At some point, this breaks down, however, if keeping schools open causes entire sectors to be closed down / effectively closed down in an 'effort' to control the spread of a virus, of which a large proportion of starting points can be traced back to schools.

Keeping schools fully open has less to do with keeping the economy open and more to do with avoiding a backlash from those who would be understandably upset that their 'sacrifices' in July and August, they were told, were necessary to allow schools to open, only to later be told that really that was pointless as it was schools, rather than their business / employer etc, that was going to be the problem.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to hold the view that while the SG were following 'the science' available at the time - there wasn't really (m)any papers showing school children being big spreaders of the virus - that data has changed, particularly here in the UK where contact tracing shows somewhere in the region of 40% of acute outbreaks can be traced back to education settings (and that around 75% of those are in schools) versus 3% to hospitality venues, and that that requires a change in tactic.

Prepare for a sea of red dots and “WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE” posts Todd.

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Schools to remain open at all tiers of restrictions in Scotland then.

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I'd have to disagree with this.
I haven't seen anyone on this thread, even those of us who work in the education sector, call for schools to be closed.
What I (and others) have said is that we have no problem with schools remaining open (I fully understand the importance both in terms of education and childcare) but would like the preposterous charade that the virus doesn't know how to get through a school's front doors dropped.


Fair enough, I probably should have made that distinction. I think it goes back to the communication point. If parents had been told “there is a risk but we’ve assessed it and think it’s safe to go back” I think they be happy with that. IIRC there were points made about nothing being risk free but governments obviously think if they say anything other than schools are risk free then children will be kept at home.

I think most parents understand the balance of risks. We put our boy back into nursery understanding that there is a risk at such places but that the upsides balance if off. If my wife or I were shielding or had severe underlying conditions it would be different but we don’t. We understand it’s not 100% safe and so do other parents, from what I can see. The nursery actually had its first positive test result this week though, so we are going to sue them for all they’ve got.

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1 minute ago, GiGi said:

Schools to remain open at all tiers of restrictions in Scotland then.

Sounds like it.

I wish they'd require something similar of universities, given that they're charging fortunes for people to needlessly live nearby.

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Schools to remain open at all tiers of restrictions in Scotland then.
Tier 5 for all incomming

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Looks like similar to England the current level of Central Belt restrictions (Tier 3) will permit restaurants to remain open in some way.

 

Anyone been able to access the document and see where sports crowds fit in ?

 

Presumably if level 0 allows some fans to return you may have fans at some games yet still not allowed in others. It may be the case that sports crowds returning don't fall into any of these "tiers" and hence simply isn't being considered until this is officially declared over !!!

 

 

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