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8 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Interesting. Emergency admissions for acute respiratory infections (which Covid comes under) are considerably below the norm for this time of year (in England), and not rising.

Which doesn't support the tightening of restrictions are required to protect the NHS as covid admissions are rising line.

Either a large proportion of those in hospital with covid are in hospital for something else, and just happen to be testing positive, or they are contracting covid once inside hospital, and going on to require treatment.

Neither of which would justify, or be helped, by additional restrictions outside of the hospital.

Or the reduction in non Covid respiratory infections are a collateral effect of the measures to reduce transmission of Covid.

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3 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said:

Instead of wearing a mask, consider a shirt that says, "I'm a Pathetic Imbecile" in great big letters on both the front and back. Message is the same. But as far as I know there's no research indicating the shirt will harm your health.

Cough on your neighbours, sheeple!

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6 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Or the reduction in non Covid respiratory infections are a collateral effect of the measures to reduce transmission of Covid.

Possibly some of that (looking at the summer months it was well under), but the point I was making was the existing restrictions were fine. There's no need to tighten them.

If there is a problem with transmission within hospital, closing hospitality etc won't solve that.

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Wales seems to be going a bit mental.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194

Supermarkets will be unable to sell items like clothes during the 17-day Covid firebreak lockdown in Wales.

First Minister Mark Drakeford said it would be "made clear" to them they are only able to open parts of their business that sell "essential goods".

Many retailers will be forced to shut but food shops, off-licences and pharmacies can stay open when lockdown begins on Friday at 18:00 BST.

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I can’t even remember supermarkets being banned from selling clothes in the original lockdown.

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7 minutes ago, mizfit said:

I can’t even remember supermarkets being banned from selling clothes in the original lockdown.

They weren't. That's ridiculous.

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9 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said:

Sweden didn’t go into lockdown.

Yes, they did. Maybe without the same level of legal force, but they did. You're going to have to find another country to promote the "let it go free!" strategy.

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Yes, they did. Maybe without the same level of legal force, but they did. You're going to have to find another country to promote the "let it go free!" strategy.

Brazil? 

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12 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

Wales seems to be going a bit mental.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194

 

 

Would seem a bit unfair if you're closing all non essential shops selling clothes but allowing Tesco and Asda to keep selling them. They manage to shut off alcohol aisles easy enough when it's not permitted.

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I remember the stories about police checking people’s trollies for Easter eggs during the lockdown. Deeply weird stuff.

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32 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Would seem a bit unfair if you're closing all non essential shops selling clothes but allowing Tesco and Asda to keep selling them. They manage to shut off alcohol aisles easy enough when it's not permitted.

What if people need to buy clothes?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chairman Mao said:

Instead of wearing a mask, consider a shirt that says, "I'm a Pathetic Imbecile" in great big letters on both the front and back. Message is the same. But as far as I know there's no research indicating the shirt will harm your health.

Do they sell these in Primark?

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Yes, they did. Maybe without the same level of legal force, but they did. You're going to have to find another country to promote the "let it go free!" strategy.

Tbf they closed schools for seniors, encouraged working from home, banned large gatherings (max. 50 ppl, recently increased to 300), and introduced distancing. Everything else was voluntary, and pretty much everywhere remained open for those that wanted to use it.

Largely what we had in July. That's not a lockdown.

I don't know if you've seen anything from Sweden recently, but it looks pretty normal.

In fact, right on cue 

 

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54 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Would seem a bit unfair if you're closing all non essential shops selling clothes but allowing Tesco and Asda to keep selling them. They manage to shut off alcohol aisles easy enough when it's not permitted.

The issue is that defining essential items instead of essential shops is a bit of a slippery slope. You’re into the mindset of that Chief Constable who talked about searching trolleys back in March.

I’d also argue that clothes shops are only “non-essential” precisely because supermarkets sell clothes.

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I remember the stories about police checking people’s trollies for Easter eggs during the lockdown. Deeply weird stuff.


That was one police chief Constable somewhere in middle England a couple of weeks into lockdown who made a “no more Mr nice guy” type statement only for the government to quickly clarify that supermarkets were allowed to sell all of their products and things like chocolate were obviously allowed. They pretty much told the guy to shut up.

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1 hour ago, Chairman Mao said:

Instead of wearing a mask, consider a shirt that says, "I'm a Pathetic Imbecile" in great big letters on both the front and back. Message is the same. But as far as I know there's no research indicating the shirt will harm your health.

My "I'm a Pathetic Imbecile" t shirt has a lot of people asking questions already answered by my "I'm a Pathetic Imbecile" t shirt

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Tbf they closed schools for seniors, encouraged working from home, banned large gatherings (max. 50 ppl, recently increased to 300), and introduced distancing. Everything else was voluntary, and pretty much everywhere remained open for those that wanted to use it.
Largely what we had in July. That's not a lockdown.
I don't know if you've seen anything from Sweden recently, but it looks pretty normal.
In fact, right on cue 
 

Come on. White knighting your other account is not cool.

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