Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, pandarilla said: A couple of young student teachers left me pretty shocked this afternoon after brazenly declaring that they wouldn't take a covid vaccine. This vaccine will have gone through all the normal checks and hoops needed in order to get approval. I'll be amazed if any doctors or scientists wouldn't recommend taking this, and yet still plenty of zoomers are thinking Bill Gates is using it for world domination. If you don't need a vaccine why would you get it? It makes no difference whether someone in their 20s or 30s gets it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, Detournement said: If you don't need a vaccine why would you get it? It makes no difference whether someone in their 20s or 30s gets it. Herd immunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: Herd immunity. The vaccine doesn't stop you from contracting Covid it just reduces the severity of the symptoms like a flu vaccine If you are one of the billions of people who are almost guaranteed to have mild or no symptoms why bother? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Herd immunity. Arent you quoting the guy who drank from a puddle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Arent you quoting the guy who drank from a puddle? I heard he hasn't aged a day since. Pfizer haven't released enough information yet to tell whether the vaccine stops or reduces transmission, that will be key. Presumably if it reduces the viral load it will reduce transmission though? Edited November 9, 2020 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Excited for when one of the side effects is announced as "reduced libido" and that becomes proof that the vaccine's true purpose is population control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hearing that the current trial is only on 90 people and hasn't even been completed is a bit of a let down, I doubt if there's even one with anything like my pre-existing conditions or even age group. And the problem of keeping it at -80c for distribution and storage will be huge I'd have thought, especially in the 3rd World. Sounds like Pfizer have jumped the gun for share price reasons to me. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 If the vaccine has to be stored at minus 80 they should set up a Nightingale Hospital at Harthill Royal's ground 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 hours ago, NotThePars said: Waiting patiently for the first person to say the left should apologise for criticising Owen Smith and his work for Pfizer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Absolute scenes when pubs & football reopen, exclusively for over 70s who've been vaccinated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: Nobody on here has said schools are safe, nobody has said schools should be closed. It will be remembered as the great masks versus blended war, and nobody will know what that means. It's been literally two months of people furiously not saying things to each other and getting absolutely fucking raging about the things no-one is actually saying. One of the many absolutely top fucking drawer arguments that will be good to soak back up when the thread inevitably becomes P&b Gold. Edited November 9, 2020 by madwullie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Hearing that the current trial is only on 90 people and hasn't even been completed is a bit of a let down, I doubt if there's even one with anything like my pre-existing conditions or even age group. And the problem of keeping it at -80c for distribution and storage will be huge I'd have thought, especially in the 3rd World. Sounds like Pfizer have jumped the gun for share price reasons to me. Uwot? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54873105 “Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries” 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It's been literally two months of people furiously not saying things to each other and getting absolutely fucking raging about the things no-one is actually saying. One of the many absolutely top fucking drawer arguments that will be good to soak back up when the thread inevitably becomes P&b Gold. So should they stay open or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, eez-eh said: Uwot? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54873105 “Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries” Missed that bit , but it was this bit that worried me. "The data shows that two doses, three weeks apart, are needed. The trials - in US, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, South Africa and Turkey - show 90% protection is achieved seven days after the second dose. However, the data presented is not the final analysis as it is based on only the first 94 volunteers to develop Covid so the precise effectiveness of the vaccine may change when the full results are analysed." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Missed that bit , but it was this bit that worried me. "The data shows that two doses, three weeks apart, are needed. The trials - in US, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, South Africa and Turkey - show 90% protection is achieved seven days after the second dose. However, the data presented is not the final analysis as it is based on only the first 94 volunteers to develop Covid so the precise effectiveness of the vaccine may change when the full results are analysed."If you vaccinate over 20000 people (and placebo 20k) and the first 94 to get covid are almost entirely on the placebo, that’s pretty bloody significant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: If you vaccinate over 20000 people (and placebo 20k) and the first 94 to get covid are almost entirely on the placebo, that’s pretty bloody significant. It is if there's a wide spread of age and risk groups. They haven't released that information. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Missed that bit , but it was this bit that worried me. "The data shows that two doses, three weeks apart, are needed. The trials - in US, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, South Africa and Turkey - show 90% protection is achieved seven days after the second dose. However, the data presented is not the final analysis as it is based on only the first 94 volunteers to develop Covid so the precise effectiveness of the vaccine may change when the full results are analysed."You missed that bit and genuinely thought that all this fuss was over a trial on 90 (ninety) people?Get your temperature checked my man. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, tamthebam said: If the vaccine has to be stored at minus 80 they should set up a Nightingale Hospital at Harthill Royal's ground I know a guy who works on the busses and is used to such temperatures. He’s a super conductor. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: ... And the problem of keeping it at -80c for distribution and storage will be huge I'd have thought, ... Would be better if the resident alarmists would stop parroting this sort of stuff when they clearly don't understand the issue in question. Dry ice and liquid nitrogen are used routinely for this sort of cooling, so there is nothing hugely challenging about this. It's a bit of a nuisance factor rather than an insurmountable obstacle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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