Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 A reporter on the BBC in a pub in Manchester reporting how the city is under local "lockdown", as 4 guys sit behind her in close proximity to each other having a pint. When did not being able to go into someone else's house and pubs closing a couple of hours earlier become a "lockdown"? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Got a quiz for you all. Your stated aim is to reduce the spread of covid. What areas do you introduce restrictions on to help you achieve this goal? Can't place restrictions on schools or workplaces so shut down the care homes imo. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 While I appreciate this, I'd still reckon that per head of population there's more people not working from home and regularly socialising in London that there are in the likes of Newcastle or Glasgow. Glasgow City Centre is deserted as are the trains and buses as all the major employers in the finance and insurance industry also have the majority of their staff working from home so really not sure about this at all. Madrid is also the financial centre of Spain where the Basque country and Catalonia are the industrial heartlands, yet Madrid is by far the worst hit City for covid in Spain and by quite some way at that.Complete nonsense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Partial results of the ONS survey came back with some interesting results. Of the 36,000 positive cases identified in April and June, 86% of them didn't have any of the three main symptoms on the day of the test and 75% had no symptoms at all.The study analysing the survey says the main symptoms are poor markers of identifying covid and widespread testing of everyone in high positive or high risk areas will be necessary.https://www.dovepress.com/three-quarters-of-people-with-sars-cov-2-infection-are-asymptomatic-an-peer-reviewed-article-CLEP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: A reporter on the BBC in a pub in Manchester reporting how the city is under local "lockdown", as 4 guys sit behind her in close proximity to each other having a pint. She's confused lockdown with lock in IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Oxford vaccine postponed for a month. Is it game over for it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: 22 minutes ago, 101 said: The whole of the country hasn't been locked down. Not true, the government in Westminster could find furlough for a year if they scrapped trident. It's a political decision the money is there it's being spent in the wrong places. Also the big tech giants pay no tax which is welcomed by the government. If we don't need the revenue that they would provide then I assume the UK government is awash with cash. You and your fucking Westminster Always brother. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lurkst said: She's confused lockdown with lock in IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, charger29 said: Partial results of the ONS survey came back with some interesting results. Of the 36,000 positive cases identified in April and June, 86% of them didn't have any of the three main symptoms on the day of the test and 75% had no symptoms at all. The study analysing the survey says the main symptoms are poor markers of identifying covid and widespread testing of everyone in high positive or high risk areas will be necessary. https://www.dovepress.com/three-quarters-of-people-with-sars-cov-2-infection-are-asymptomatic-an-peer-reviewed-article-CLEP There was a piece about this in Private Eye recently which noted that "adults have a much greater range of Covid symptoms (20) than the three the Government has highlighted (high temperature, persistent cough and loss of smell or taste)." According to the Covid Symptom Study App the top symptoms (for adults) were fatigue, headache, loss of smell, persistent cough and sore throat. And just in case a citation is needed - Private Eye No. 1531. Edited October 8, 2020 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, charger29 said: Partial results of the ONS survey came back with some interesting results. Of the 36,000 positive cases identified in April and June, 86% of them didn't have any of the three main symptoms on the day of the test and 75% had no symptoms at all. The study analysing the survey says the main symptoms are poor markers of identifying covid and widespread testing of everyone in high positive or high risk areas will be necessary. https://www.dovepress.com/three-quarters-of-people-with-sars-cov-2-infection-are-asymptomatic-an-peer-reviewed-article-CLEP It was 36,000 tests total. They found 115 positive tests of whom only 27 had symptoms when tested. 625 people reported symptoms on testing so symptoms without Covid were roughly 25 times higher than symptoms with Covid. Edited October 8, 2020 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Donathan said: Complete nonsense In what way ?? Please tell me that you don't think everyone who lives and works in London is an Investment Banker based in canary wharf !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Oxford vaccine postponed for a month. Is it game over for it?What's the source? All I can see is stories surrounding issues people in the US have had because of the previous delay. The month delay seems to only apply to trial participants in the US who havent had their second jab -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: It was 36,000 tests total. They found 115 positive tests of whom only 27 had symptoms when tested. 625 people reported symptoms on testing so symptoms without Covid were roughly 25 times higher than symptoms with Covid. So... back to BoJo's Moonshot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Calder Lion Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Got a quiz for you all. Your stated aim is to reduce the spread of covid. What areas do you introduce restrictions on to help you achieve this goal? These figures are out of date and do not apply to Scotland. Yesterday the Scottish Government released an evidence paper showing data gathered through the test and tracing process which is probably much more accurate than the above. It shows over 20% of those tested positive reported having visited a hospitality venue within the previous seven days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 21 minutes ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: Oxford vaccine postponed for a month. Is it game over for it? What's the source? All I can see is stories surrounding issues people in the US have had because of the previous delay. The month delay seems to only apply to trial participants in the US who havent had their second jab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Quote "It will mean a bit of queuing outside again, maybe the Covid officers helping with some of that. We need people to realise the virus is the same and it is not going away." I didn't know Scotland had Covid officers. Has anyone seen them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, East Calder Lion said: These figures are out of date and do not apply to Scotland. Yesterday the Scottish Government released an evidence paper showing data gathered through the test and tracing process which is probably much more accurate than the above. It shows over 20% of those tested positive reported having visited a hospitality venue within the previous seven days. The Scottish evidence papers didn't mention schools at all in their graph. Here's the England graphs for last week: No idea what is going on in schools in England but it's good The Virus seems to avoid Scottish schools. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 It was 36,000 tests total. They found 115 positive tests of whom only 27 had symptoms when tested. 625 people reported symptoms on testing so symptoms without Covid were roughly 25 times higher than symptoms with Covid. You're right, my bad. Saw 36,000 asymptomatic and thought it meant positive and asymptomatic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: The Scottish evidence papers didn't mention schools at all in their graph. Here's the England graphs for last week: No idea what is going on in schools in England but it's good The Virus seems to avoid Scottish schools. Have English schools got the kids in masks? Might help cases a little. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 In what way ?? Please tell me that you don't think everyone who lives and works in London is an Investment Banker based in canary wharf !!! I live on the London/Essex borderLondon is absolutely rammed full of office workers unlike any other UK city 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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