renton Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: So schools go back early August and this is the current state of play. What is your theory? My theory is that schools going back reflects a general loosening of restrictions. The biggest effect being that thousands of parents could return to work from furlough or generally be free to mix and socialise more than previously. It's an indirect effect of schools returning, not a direct effect of children mixing. Then in September we get huge clusters in Uni student halls. So, we could restrict schools again, to blended learning but we wouldn't be doing it to stop cases from children mixing, we'd be doing it to try and stop their parents going out. At which point we have to face up to the prospect that it's just a general degree of freedom in civil society that is a tipping point. Edited October 6, 2020 by renton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Please do!VTSzamoMalloThere was one other posting it constantly learly yesterday - can't remember who exactly.The point is the accusation has been made that I think that schools have no role in infections - I've never said that at all.I have consistently said they are, but it's much more to increasing social interaction eg enabling parents to return to work; school gate interaction etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Falkirk09Bairn said: Your problems pale into comparison to the families losing loved ones all so you can post pictures on Instagram of yourself lifting a few weights. It’s an incredibly selfish hill to die on. As I thought, you're a sad troll with no redeeming qualities. Off you f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: VT Szamo Mallo There was one other posting it constantly learly yesterday - can't remember who exactly. The point is the accusation has been made that I think that schools have no role in infections - I've never said that at all. I have consistently said they are, but it's much more to increasing social interaction eg enabling parents to return to work; school gate interaction etc. Please find me actual posts by those three members where they say schools are the only reason for transmission increasing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: VT Szamo Mallo There was one other posting it constantly learly yesterday - can't remember who exactly. The point is the accusation has been made that I think that schools have no role in infections - I've never said that at all. I have consistently said they are, but it's much more to increasing social interaction eg enabling parents to return to work; school gate interaction etc. I’ve already asked but strangely you’ve ignored it so I’ll ask again. Can you please quote even 1 post from someone saying it’s 100% schools? I’ll even chuck in a tenner charity bet if you can find just 1 post. If you can quote 1 then name your charity, otherwise I’ll name mine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Falkirk09Bairn said: Your problems pale into comparison to the families losing loved ones all so you can post pictures on Instagram of yourself lifting a few weights. It’s an incredibly selfish hill to die on. You seem to be a genuine moron. Pointing out the downside of poorly conceived restrictions is an entirely reasonable thing to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: VT Szamo Mallo There was one other posting it constantly learly yesterday - can't remember who exactly. The point is the accusation has been made that I think that schools have no role in infections - I've never said that at all. I have consistently said they are, but it's much more to increasing social interaction eg enabling parents to return to work; school gate interaction etc. Quote any of my posts where I've said this or apologise for defaming me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Can you please quote even 1 post from someone saying it’s 100% schools? Now that's what they call a strawman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 16 hours ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: That's a shocking and dangerous statement from Sturgeon. I will still vote SNP come what may to achieve the goal of independence but she loses all credibility with those quotes, the "act without delay" open letter and allowing herself to be advised by muppets like Jason Leitch. What a shambles this winter is going to be. And so will I. SNP is a means to an end - Independence! 16 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: It's not very pleasant but it's not insufferable. see below 14 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: A total piece of piss. I've genuinely got no idea why people make out it's even slightly unpleasant, never mind some sort of ordeal. But where dae they stick the thermometer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 This is pathetic lads. Should Todd not be quarantining in whichever godforsaken North Lanarkshire shit hole he lives in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Now that's what they call a strawman. Not sure you understand the term. He posted specifically saying that people have said that it is purely schools causing transmission, and I’ve just asked him to show me evidence. Unsurprisingly he’s yet to even respond to either myself or Gaz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Not sure you understand the term. He posted specifically saying that people have said that it is purely schools causing transmission, and I’ve just asked him to show me evidence. Unsurprisingly he’s yet to even respond to either myself or Gaz. You certainly didn't include any other possible factors in this post. But you're right, you didn't 100% list and rule them all out either. You win. 47 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: So schools go back early August and this is the current state of play. What is your theory? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Not sure you understand the term. He posted specifically saying that people have said that it is purely schools causing transmission, and I’ve just asked him to show me evidence. Unsurprisingly he’s yet to even respond to either myself or Gaz. A quick response as I'm about to go on a tour of the Vatican.The 3 posters concerned have consistently said that schools are the main driver - the elephant in the room argument.This started because I was accused of making it an either or argument - I'm saying that most people recognise that it is a combination of several complex factors.Find a quote where I've said schools have no role?You won't. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You certainly didn't include any other possible factors in this post. But you're right, you didn't 100% list and rule them all out either. You win. Because it’s blatantly obvious to everyone (other than DeeTilEhDie apparently) that there are other factors. To suggest it’s a single factor causing something is madness, but he’s claiming that people are which is blatantly untrue and disingenuous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: A quick response as I'm about to go on a tour of the Vatican. The 3 posters concerned have consistently said that schools are the main driver - the elephant in the room argument. This started because I was accused of making it an either or argument - I'm saying that most people recognise that it is a combination of several complex factors. Find a quote where I've said schools have no role? You won't. I haven’t said that you’ve said schools have no role. You’ve made an incorrect statement, been unable to back it up when asked, and now have completely moved the goal posts. Enjoy the Vatican, it’s a good place to hide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: A quick response as I'm about to go on a tour of the Vatican. The 3 posters concerned have consistently said that schools are the main driver - the elephant in the room argument. This started because I was accused of making it an either or argument - I'm saying that most people recognise that it is a combination of several complex factors. Find a quote where I've said schools have no role? You won't. Apologise to me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 No it hasn't. Those graphs show that the number of staff self isolating or testing positive has gone down since the first week of the schools returning but the numbers have plateaued with small increases and decreases week to week.Sorry I should’ve said that the number of teachers off with positive tests or symptoms has gone down week on week. The overall trend for every measure is down though, with small variations. If schools themselves were an important source for infections you’d expect to see this being different, especially as overall rates of infections have increased during the same period.I think the schools will eventually close for a week or two around this circuit breaker tbh. The impact of moving to blended learning or closing schools would be significant in terms of the economy though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: A quick response as I'm about to go on a tour of the Vatican. The 3 posters concerned have consistently said that schools are the main driver - the elephant in the room argument. But that's not what you said. You claimed that four posters had said schools were the only driver - not the main driver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, Gaz said: But that's not what you said. You claimed that four posters had said schools were the only driver - not the main driver. Give up. He’s away hiding in a cupboard in The Vatican now until it moves onto something else. There will be no acceptance that he was talking complete shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I am looking forward to the day i can walk into a pub with a few of my mates and get a nice cold drink and not have to worry about wearing a mask, social distancing or the number in my party. It might be a long time away but that will make it all the sweeter.Another lockdown wouldn’t be great but it is only two weeks (for now). It is such a small time especially compared with the first lockdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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