SweeperDee Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Right, tinfoil hats back on chaps. I know Knightswood Bear already speculated the theory a couple of hundred pages back, but is anyone else wondering whether this isn’t actually a result of hoi sin bat (© throbber) that was a couple of days past it’s sell by date but instead some biological warfare experiment gone wrong and escaped? Epiecentre is the middle of China that no-one in the Western world could’ve pinned on a map last year, Iran seems disproportionately badly affected while Russia seems almost immune. All coincidence? Russia won’t be immune, there will be people with it (I also assume Russian healthcare for those on middling/low income will be not the best, so no chance of testing), but their population is so sparsely distributed that the virus will take almost double/triple the amount of time to spread. Your first two points I don’t think I can really address. The virus has to start somewhere? And Iran probably just had a perfect storm of societal, and healthcare issues that led to virus running rampant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So in the space of a few days we have moved from 'mitigation' to 'supression'. I am pretty sure supression was the policy that the World Health Organisation was promoting all along; that other countries have adopted; and that other countries are achieving through forcing closures in many areas rather than using advisory measures. I am pretty sure Sturgeon does not want to turn this into a party political issue but maybe Scotland needs to be questioning the validity of the UK approach. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-govt-ramped-up-measures-after-new-prediction-of-250-000-deaths-11958680 Yeah this is the big point. I just hope for all our sakes we've moved in enough time in the end to still gain control of the outbreak. If we don't and other countries who have moved quicker fare better, we'll thats not going to be a good look politically, and more importantly it's going to be bad news for the population. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, SweeperDee said: Russia won’t be immune, there will be people with it (I also assume Russian healthcare for those on middling/low income will be not the best, so no chance of testing), but their population is so sparsely distributed that the virus will take almost double/triple the amount of time to spread. Your first two points I don’t think I can really address. The virus has to start somewhere? And Iran probably just had a perfect storm of societal, and healthcare issues that led to virus running rampant. you do realise Russia has large cities and airports just like the rest of the developed world?thats how a disease like this spreads,global travel-its not the fourteenth century with the black death slowly creeping across the map over a series of years.i suspect Russia will have their own issues with this but are just keeping it quiet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said: A tin of dog food is cheaper and more nutrious. A friend also says it's tastier.....but it sticks to your teeth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Right, tinfoil hats back on chaps. I know Knightswood Bear already speculated the theory a couple of hundred pages back, but is anyone else wondering whether this isn’t actually a result of hoi sin bat ((c) throbber) that was a couple of days past it’s sell by date but instead some biological warfare experiment gone wrong and escaped? Epiecentre is the middle of China that no-one in the Western world could’ve pinned on a map last year, Iran seems disproportionately badly affected while Russia seems almost immune. All coincidence? Wuhan a city of about 10 million people. Your own ignorance doesn't mean that the government is trying to kill us all. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, alta-pete said: ...Epiecentre is the middle of China that no-one in the Western world could’ve pinned on a map last year, Iran seems disproportionately badly affected while Russia seems almost immune. All coincidence? The countries that got it bad so far all had average temperatures at exactly the right sort of level for a Coronavirus epidemic. Not cold enough to be regularly subzero for prolonged periods and well below 20C which is the temperature level that tends to move things out of the flu season. Russia's turn will be April and May. The problem for Scotland is that we have areas in the north and west that often never really fully move out of flu season conditions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 The UK government will have to follow everyone else in putting forward some kind of stimulus package to cope with the mass unemployment, particularly of service sector workers. No doubt they will try and do the least possible but I do wonder if some kind of Universal Basic Income would be an idea that's found it's time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Wet wipes. Ill take 3 packets. I got 4 packs this morning 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 you do realise Russia has large cities and airports just like the rest of the developed world?thats how a disease like this spreads,global travel-its not the fourteenth century with the black death slowly creeping across the map over a series of years.i suspect Russia will have their own issues with this but are just keeping it quiet Well yes, I do know that. You’re right in saying that they will be keeping cards close to their chest; I did say they will have cases, and they will probably be in the most densely populated and well connected cities in the country. Outside of those cities though, and into rural Russia, god only knows. I would wager the spread will be slower though, because of the population spread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Right, tinfoil hats back on chaps. I know Knightswood Bear already speculated the theory a couple of hundred pages back, but is anyone else wondering whether this isn’t actually a result of hoi sin bat ((c) throbber) that was a couple of days past it’s sell by date but instead some biological warfare experiment gone wrong and escaped? Epiecentre is the middle of China that no-one in the Western world could’ve pinned on a map last year, Iran seems disproportionately badly affected while Russia seems almost immune. All coincidence? Somebody was posting about a post on China voice where the outbreak was closely proceeded by the closing of Fort Kendricks(sp) in the US. This has led to comments even from Chinese government officials that the US was behind it Too tin-foily imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, The OP said: Pretty sure I could pin the middle of China on a map. ^^^ highly valued member of the British government's Covid 19 taskforce. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 hours ago, whereismillar said: Is it ? ..feck i have two hotels booked in calais and amiens in april ..looks like it's fecked then ...bollocks ..no refund on this too will i get refunded on the euro tunnel ? oh who cares St andrews for a weekend instead then .. As far as I am aware, hotels are still operating but if you aren't allowed into the country then you're stuck. I ran some government info through google translate. Looks like holiday travel is taboo. On March 16, 2020, the President of the Republic decided to take measures to minimize contact and travel. A containment system is in place throughout the territory from Tuesday, March 17 at 12:00 p.m., for a minimum of fifteen days. Travel is prohibited except in the following cases and only if you have a certificate for: Move from home to work when telework is not possible; Make essential purchases in authorized local shops; Go to a health professional; Travel for childcare or to help vulnerable people with the strict condition of respecting barrier gestures; Exercise only on an individual basis, around the home and without any gathering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Wuhan a city of about 10 million people. Your own ignorance doesn't mean that the government is trying to kill us all. Listen mate, I know nuance can be difficult to detect in text but I think you’re taking me (and probably yourself) waaay too seriously. Just shooting the breeze, throwing it out there for some bites. Tough times for many now and I expect many many more to come. ‘Twas but a ham fisted attempt at some levity... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So in the space of a few days we have moved from 'mitigation' to 'supression'. I am pretty sure supression was the policy that the World Health Organisation was promoting all along; that other countries have adopted; and that other countries are achieving through forcing closures in many areas rather than using advisory measures. I am pretty sure Sturgeon does not want to turn this into a party political issue but maybe Scotland needs to be questioning the validity of the UK approach. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-govt-ramped-up-measures-after-new-prediction-of-250-000-deaths-11958680 I don't think the Scottish government has a huge amount of choice in how they deal with this, given how interlinked so much of the UK is. It would pretty much be UDI if we took a different approach to them. As for Zürich in rush hour - Barely a soul kicking about. For the most part last week you could barely move without bumping into someone, today there were a couple of dozen milling about at best when I went through just before 8:30, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 So now that the toilet roll is completely gone from Western Germany, all shops except pharmacies, supermarkets and a handful of other places are allowed to remain open. Full lockdown apparently being considered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Listen mate, I know nuance can be difficult to detect in text but I think you’re taking me (and probably yourself) waaay too seriously. Just shooting the breeze, throwing it out there for some bites. Tough times for many now and I expect many many more to come. ‘Twas but a ham fisted attempt at some levity... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Ross. said: I don't think the Scottish government has a huge amount of choice in how they deal with this, given how interlinked so much of the UK is. It would pretty much be UDI if we took a different approach to them. As for Zürich in rush hour - Barely a soul kicking about. For the most part last week you could barely move without bumping into someone, today there were a couple of dozen milling about at best when I went through just before 8:30, Get yourself down to Rapperswil and enjoy a beer by the water. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Thought working from home would be a great laugh but I'm only on day 2 and noticing the perils of being a 2-shits-a-day guy. Never before have I really appreciated how much I rely on company bog roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 hours ago, highlandcowden said: poor boris he wanted the big job,hes got it RICH Boris. Hope he gets the virus as well. On second thoughts, he would just use that as an excuse to disappear from public life. Kent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Doing naff all else the day son so I’ll lend you the benefit of a wee bit of education: tin foil hats speculated wondering hoi sin bat seems - do not equal facts. You seem a p***kly wee character. Do try and lighten up, it’ll improve your overall forum experience 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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