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I think UEFA madated that all NL games were played behind closed doors otherwise that was the plan.
I don't really understand how it's up to UEFA to decide when fans return, and how many, mind you, over governments.



If UEFA said they were happy for fans to show up and then a covid cluster happened they’d be shafted by the media.

They’re being overtly cautious to avoid any blame, bearing in mind most cases in Spain, Italy and North East England can be linked to fans travelling for games

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Just now, Thereisalight.. said:

A crazy decision by UEFA then especially when limited amounts of fans are back in stadiums in quite a few countries now 

Or in Belarus, where stadiums never closed at all, suddenly can't have fans against Albania

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7 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I also wonder if the “fan village”/alcohol outlets will be open tomorrow night? Was anything mentioned about booze being allowed to be consumed during the game?

They'll just urinate in pint glasses and drink that like usual I guess

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A crazy decision by UEFA then especially when limited amounts of fans are back in stadiums in quite a few countries now 

If you believe that a home crowd is an advantage, having a position where Belarus might have a full house cheering them on, and Spain (example only) are behind locked doors, is potentially unfair.

Having everyone on the same set of rules means one less thing for people to complain about. (Other than the usual mouth breathers on here who will moan no matter what).

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Or in Belarus, where stadiums never closed at all, suddenly can't have fans against Albania


Belarus has bigger issues in fairness

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18 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Or in Belarus, where stadiums never closed at all, suddenly can't have fans against Albania

Crazy! 

I saw that Brighton are having 2500 fans at their friendly this weekend. Their ground capacity is 30,000. Those numbers make the 1,000 at 67,000 Murrayfield seem even more ridiculous 

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32 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

A crazy decision by UEFA then especially when limited amounts of fans are back in stadiums in quite a few countries now 

Can you have some countries having a limited "home crowd advantage" but other countries facing more of a level playing field?  Think it's got to be same for everyone.

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9 minutes ago, dee_62 said:

Can you have some countries having a limited "home crowd advantage" but other countries facing more of a level playing field?  Think it's got to be same for everyone.

Unless the entire competition is played behind closed doors, that's a bit of a moot point.

Our return fixture v Israel, for example, is in mid November. Cannot see any reason right now for that being behind closed doors.

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I have yet to attend a game in this country, pro or Junior with the "throw money in a bucket" system you describe. Every junior game I have been to certainly in the times since the West regional setup has seen a paper ticket given out on admission. That alone would enable accurate counting. A junior stadium with no / very little seating would be very easy to self police SD wise.
Morton fans know only too well the "throw money in a bucket" system.

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35 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Unless the entire competition is played behind closed doors, that's a bit of a moot point.

Our return fixture v Israel, for example, is in mid November. Cannot see any reason right now for that being behind closed doors.

It was in the interests of fairness the UEFA decided that all NL fixtures for the opening round of games were to be BCD. You're right that if they're that interested in fairness then all games should be BCD for the duration of the competition

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Police in Scotlnd can now break up house parties.

 

Siege like standoffs!  Forget Leningrad, what about the Siege of Shuggie McIntosh's empty?

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Nicola coming out on team [mention=11540]virginton[/mention] over the selfish parents, just dialled right down.
 
She's 100% right and is correct to be emphasising the point. Testing numbers backed her up today, a totally ridiculous number of kids seeking tests and a very predictable tiny % proving positive.

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Email sent out at work telling us that if we keep 2m apart then we won't be deemed a close contact.

I thought that nhs track and trace get to decide this and not an employer?

Theres no way we can all keep apart and if someone picked it up then pretty much everyone in here will have been within 2m of them at some point in a weeks gap.
No masks worn and no proper air flow.

Are they going against acas advice?

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1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said:

Email sent out at work telling us that if we keep 2m apart then we won't be deemed a close contact.

I thought that nhs track and trace get to decide this and not an employer?

Theres no way we can all keep apart and if someone picked it up then pretty much everyone in here will have been within 2m of them at some point in a weeks gap.
No masks worn and no proper air flow.

Are they going against acas advice?

I think thats in line with SG guidance. I remember Jason Leitch describing a close contact as 'someone who you've been within 2M. of for 15 minutes"

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She's 100% right and is correct to be emphasising the point. Testing numbers backed her up today, a totally ridiculous number of kids seeking tests and a very predictable tiny % proving positive.
What about folk on this thread providing anecdotal evidence that their schools are demanding negative test results for any kid to return having been ill or interpreting the symptoms differently?

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Email sent out at work telling us that if we keep 2m apart then we won't be deemed a close contact.

I thought that nhs track and trace get to decide this and not an employer?

Theres no way we can all keep apart and if someone picked it up then pretty much everyone in here will have been within 2m of them at some point in a weeks gap.
No masks worn and no proper air flow.

Are they going against acas advice?
Posted about this way back when Test and Protect first came up. My work did the exact same immediately. A highly cynical way to protect their operation.

Not that it would matter at my work. If it became clear that contact tracers were putting it in any risk at all, govt intervention or some sort of dispensation would be sought and it would be granted.

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I think thats in line with SG guidance. I remember Jason Leitch describing a close contact as 'someone who you've been within 2M. of for 15 minutes"
OK cheers, just seemed a bit cynical to mention it. As if they've prepared something.

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17 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
21 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
She's 100% right and is correct to be emphasising the point. Testing numbers backed her up today, a totally ridiculous number of kids seeking tests and a very predictable tiny % proving positive.

What about folk on this thread providing anecdotal evidence that their schools are demanding negative test results for any kid to return having been ill or interpreting the symptoms differently?

This is the issue. The advice is, and always has been, pretty clear on when you should get a test.

But if a school decides to be ultra cautious and ask for one anyway, what are the parents meant to do?

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