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1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

 


Do we think private tutoring is a major factor in the attainment gap?

 

It has to be a factor. 

I'd wager that the attainment gap is smaller March than it is on exam day. Affluent pupils will on the whole have far more advantages studying at home in the months leading up to exams which is the most important period. 

Poorer University students have similar disadvantages competing against students who don't have part time jobs. 

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16 minutes ago, Detournement said:

It has to be a factor. 

I'd wager that the attainment gap is smaller March than it is on exam day. Affluent pupils will on the whole have far more advantages studying at home in the months leading up to exams which is the most important period. 

Poorer University students have similar disadvantages competing against students who don't have part time jobs. 

A lot of research shows the attainment gap starts before primary one, and just widens as time goes on iirc. 

Tutoring will have an impact, but there are other far more pressing factors 

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1 minute ago, madwullie said:

A lot of research shows the attainment gap starts around about primary one, and just widens as time goes on iirc 

The biggest predictor of educational achievement is the education of your parents. 

You are no doubt right about primary one but I was meaning more about the differences between pupils doing highers and achieving their best possible results. 

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2 hours ago, Wee Bully said:


Thank God you’re here to debunk all these crazy scientists.

I honestly think you are missing your vocation. You should at least be on SAGE, if not Head of the WHO!

Why as a society are we spending time and money training these people when it is all so obvious? Money down the drain I say!

 

1 hour ago, Angusfifer said:

He quite clearly gets a kick out of flying in the face of scientific advice, as his views on climate change demonstrate. 

Personally I think he's a bit of an attention seeker

It's probably not the best idea tbh to blindly white-knight for the importance of opinion-forming elites on the day that the UK's entire 'led by The Science' approach has been proven to have driven the country into a massive fucking wall. 

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43 minutes ago, Detournement said:

The biggest predictor of educational achievement is the education of your parents. 

You are no doubt right about primary one but I was meaning more about the differences between pupils doing highers and achieving their best possible results. 

Crazy that it's estimated by P1 the gap is already a year 

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15 minutes ago, virginton said:

 

It's probably not the best idea tbh to blindly white-knight for the importance of opinion-forming elites on the day that the UK's entire 'led by The Science' approach has been proven to have driven the country into a massive fucking wall. 

Agreed. Better idea to follow the advice of a few VLs on a Scottish football forum. 

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13 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said:

Agreed. Better idea to follow the advice of a few VLs on a Scottish football forum. 

The UK government could have followed a chimp throwing its own shite at a spinning wheel of response measures and not ended up with a 20% plunge in the economy, a crushing economic depression on the cards and nearly 50k dead anyway.

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First day back at work (as in teaching), in some ways it was just back to normal, in others different. Kids wouldn't have thought it in March but they were clearly delighted to be back in. The hardest thing was trying to keep the 2 m distance as it's instinct to wander around a classroom constantly.

All sorts of precautions; one-way systems, different entrance points for different year groups. A fortnightly electrostatic cleaning thing that apparently lies on surfaces for a month. The kids needs to wipe their desk and chair at the start of the period (~£30k spent on wipes to take us to Christmas:blink:) before washing/sanitising hands. Wipes for every bit of equipment they use. Not allowed to do practical until next week, or extra-curricular until September. At the end of the day it's 2000 people in a building though, not sure how it'll go if someone does get it.

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I can't be the only one who thinks spending £30k on 4 months worth of wipes is a bit of a waste of money, considering the pupils have no requirement to social distance outwith the classroom (and then immediately wash their hands anyway). It's a thing for the sake of being seen to be doing a thing.

There are surely far better things that schools can spend £30k a term on.

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32 minutes ago, David W said:

First day back at work (as in teaching), in some ways it was just back to normal, in others different. Kids wouldn't have thought it in March but they were clearly delighted to be back in. The hardest thing was trying to keep the 2 m distance as it's instinct to wander around a classroom constantly.

All sorts of precautions; one-way systems, different entrance points for different year groups. A fortnightly electrostatic cleaning thing that apparently lies on surfaces for a month. The kids needs to wipe their desk and chair at the start of the period (~£30k spent on wipes to take us to Christmas:blink:) before washing/sanitising hands. Wipes for every bit of equipment they use. Not allowed to do practical until next week, or extra-curricular until September. At the end of the day it's 2000 people in a building though, not sure how it'll go if someone does get it.

That electrostatic cleaning thing sounds like snake-oil. I presume the same buyer has fallen for some other bullshit to justify over paying for wipes too. 

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25 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I can't be the only one who thinks spending £30k on 4 months worth of wipes is a bit of a waste of money, considering the pupils have no requirement to social distance outwith the classroom (and then immediately wash their hands anyway). It's a thing for the sake of being seen to be doing a thing.

There are surely far better things that schools can spend £30k a term on.

Are they not just trying to keep classes as clean as possible to try and limit the spread if there is someone infected there? You can't seriously say that wiping down desks will have no effect other than "it's good PR"?

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36 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Are they not just trying to keep classes as clean as possible to try and limit the spread if there is someone infected there? You can't seriously say that wiping down desks will have no effect other than "it's good PR"?

Unless they plan on also wiping down every chair, wall, door and handrail immediately after anyone touches them too then it's a PR exercise.

Sanitise your hands when you enter the classroom, don't bite your nails during a lesson, and don't lick the desks.

£30k saved.

 

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