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10 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

Congratulations on managing to make the weirdest post on this clusterfuck of a thread.

I think you spoke to soon mate.

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4 minutes ago, sjc said:

Take it from someone that actually lives here. There's been no mass isolating here. They shut the schools for a fortnight and that was about it.

Could you provide a link to a peer-reviewed article in a medical journal that says this is not a pandemic, please?

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2 minutes ago, Gaz said:

As I said, any chance of providing a link to a peer-reviewed article in a medical journal that claims this is not a pandemic?

 

2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

I'll put that down as a no will I?

 

2 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Scientists changing their advice on a fast moving novel virus as new data becomes available doesn't automatically mean that there is some grand conspiracy. 

Again, why. What is the purpose of this conspiracy? Is it so that Bill Gates can control us all using vaccines, because that sounds a bit like where you're going. 

If that is the case, why would so many different countries get involved. Different nations, opposite ideologies, competing goals. 

And why haven't Japan spilled the beans then? 

 

Just now, madwullie said:

OK, so if japan aren't in on the big conspiracy, why have they stayed quiet. Surely they could expose the evil Gates once and for all? 

Where did I definitively say it wasn't a pandemic? I said I remained to be convinced in light of the oldest most vulnerable, densely populated Country in the world having no spike in deaths in spite of no lockdown restrictions compared other Countries that have. 

You guys carry on hiding under your beds though, I'm sure the Government will tell you when it's safe to come out!

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Presuming they’ll be looking for a consistent number of days we’re covid deaths are zero, and infections are less than 5 a day before they move to phase 4.

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2 minutes ago, sjc said:

Where did I definitively say it wasn't a pandemic? I said I remained to be convinced in light of the oldest most vulnerable, densely populated Country in the world having no spike in deaths in spite of no lockdown restrictions compared other Countries that have. 

Except that's not what you said. You said you remain to be convinced because of contradictory science. I'm asking you to provide a link to some of that contradictory science.

  

12 hours ago, sjc said:

This whole pandemic, if indeed that is truly what it is,

 

4 hours ago, hk blues said:

You don't think it's a pandemic?  

 

30 minutes ago, sjc said:

I remain to be convinced. Far too much contradictory science

 

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Let's be honest here, what's happened is you've claimed that you remain to be convinced that this is a pandemic because of contradictory science, then when challenged to provide that contradictory science you've realised you've made a rip-roaring c**t of it and tried to change your story.

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7 minutes ago, mizfit said:

Presuming they’ll be looking for a consistent number of days we’re covid deaths are zero, and infections are less than 5 a day before they move to phase 4.

At the moment 1 in every 375 deaths in Scotland are as a result of Covid-19, or 1 every 2½ days.

I think they have to be careful they don't lose focus on the bigger picture in their desire to keep pressing that down. Providing it can be kept at a low level, the reward for lowering it further is not particularly great versus the cost of achieving it.

I don't mean to sound callous, but those numbers are perfectly acceptable as is.

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No idea where he got that from as NS made no mention of any return to crowds at outdoor events.
BBC now saying it's all hush hush but advanced talks held and Celtic have offered to hold test events. SD Crowds COULD be back much sooner than initially thought according to McLoughlin.

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27 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

Congratulations on managing to make the weirdest post on this clusterfuck of a thread.

That first paragraph is Brilliant.   If that's not tin foil on the political tadger, what is? 

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At the moment 1 in every 375 deaths in Scotland are as a result of Covid-19, or 1 every 2½ days.
I think they have to be careful they don't lose focus on the bigger picture in their desire to keep pressing that down. Providing it can be kept at a low level, the reward for lowering it further is not particularly great versus the cost of achieving it.
I don't mean to sound callous, but those numbers are perfectly acceptable as is.
We know they are aiming for elimination leading to eradication. The SG have been pretty clear on that for a while now. They are not settling for an "acceptable level" and outwardly they have to maintain that line, they can't be seen to accept that X deaths are ok especially to the families of the unfortunate X. Privately I suspect they will rightly be pleased with where they are not excusing the mistakes made along the way which will rightly be addressed once this is all over.
One slightly distressing statement today was NS saying in her statement that there will be an "almost inevitable " resurgence in the winter !

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Just a thought given the next review isn't scheduled until 2 days before the 1st games is a 1 August restart feasible ?

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11 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Except that's not what you said. You said you remain to be convinced because of contradictory science. I'm asking you to provide a link to some of that contradictory science.

 

9 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Let's be honest here, what's happened is you've claimed that you remain to be convinced that this is a pandemic because of contradictory science, then when challenged to provide that contradictory science you've realised you've made a rip-roaring c**t of it and tried to change your story.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

covidview-05-01-2020 (1).pdf

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28 minutes ago, sjc said:

 

 

 

Where did I definitively say it wasn't a pandemic? I said I remained to be convinced in light of the oldest most vulnerable, densely populated Country in the world having no spike in deaths in spite of no lockdown restrictions compared other Countries that have. 

You guys carry on hiding under your beds though, I'm sure the Government will tell you when it's safe to come out!

OK. 

So if its not a pandemic, what is the other explanation for what has happened all across the planet in the last 6 or so months?

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5 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Just a thought given the next review isn't scheduled until 2 days before the 1st games is a 1 August restart feasible ?

There will be ongoing dialogue with the SPFL separately from this - all of the noises coming out from people on all sides suggest this is not going to be an issue.

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At the moment 1 in every 375 deaths in Scotland are as a result of Covid-19, or 1 every 2½ days.
I think they have to be careful they don't lose focus on the bigger picture in their desire to keep pressing that down. Providing it can be kept at a low level, the reward for lowering it further is not particularly great versus the cost of achieving it.
I don't mean to sound callous, but those numbers are perfectly acceptable as is.


I do agree with this. Realistically I’m not really sure how much lower we’re going to suppress the numbers with tourism/pubs/restaurants fully opening on July 15th. Deaths and new cases peaked over Easter and this feels very much like the low ‘peak’ right now. Suppression entirely is surely exceptionally unlikely or indeed impossible with indoor hospitality and most critically open borders.

I don’t think there’s a right answer on how to proceed right now. Normality brings new cases, no two ways about it. I’m very sympathetic to the idea that we just have a bloody good time for the next couple of months because it’s coming back over winter anyway. Equally maybe some caution over the next few months gives us a nice low platform to start from when cases do start to rise and we can have a semblance of normal life for longer.

There does seem to be a fair amount of people who think this is all over though. It isn’t. It will come back. Things like masks, quarter full football grounds and strange pub experiences are here for a long time.

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Didn't think there was much in today's announcement that we didn't really already know, just more of a confirmation of the dates that had been outlined previously. The part that I, personally, am frustrated with is the fact gyms are being pushed further back with no real idea on when they may be able to reopen yet pubs and other indoor activities can re-open with safety measures in place.  I'd be curious to see how much dialogue there's been between the leisure industry and the SG as to what measures/conditions would need to be met before re-opening. 

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1 minute ago, madwullie said:

OK. 

So if its not a pandemic, what is the other explanation for what has happened all across the planet in the last 6 or so months?

I don't know. You tell me. I'm just pointing out contradictions in death data in other countries.

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