Cosmic Joe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Tynierose said: It was a tough apprenticeship. I've no idea what part of the country you belong, but keep playing the socio-economic card if it makes you feel better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, virginton said: They can catch up over the rest of the year with weekend classes and fewer holidays, so education attainment isn't affected. There's not much to suggest that local authorities and schools are equipped to have everyone back in a classroom from barely three weeks' time and so this shouldn't be jammed through to placate parents who just want their state babysitter back as usual. No the schools are due to go back so back they go. No need for any further delays. There are still loads of unanswered questions around schools going back, most notably around: what happens if a pupil attends school and is then subsequently found to have the virus? Who needs to go into self-isolation? Every pupil he's come into contact with? Every teacher? Every pupil that was on his bus in the morning? The bus driver? School non-teaching staff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tynierose said: It was actually a bit of banter but hey you appear to be completely humourless. Bore off. Consider myself bored off by your banter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Angusfifer said: You're familiar with Lochee? Tweet tweet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 3 hours ago, virginton said: No the schools are due to go back so back they go. No need for any further delays. The schools are due to go back from August 11 based on a schedule that was devised before Covid-19 had even emerged as a transmissible human virus. It's now July 23 and the SG still hasn't given the green light for this to happen and Inverclyde Council for one is already indicating that it won't be able to go from a standing start to providing 100% full-time coverage in time. The logical solution therefore is to do what colleges have already done in delaying opening to their students until September while the staff return to work as planned from the beginning of term. Only an idiot would try to shove everyone in the door on day one to work it all out for themselves. 48 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 1 hour ago, jimmy boo said: Absolutely, he now thinks we should delay the return of schools as they are only being "rushed" back (after 5 month off) to provide their parents with free child care. The guys a grade 1 fruit loop. You say black he will say white. If another post made the point they shouldn't be going back so soon he would be all over it with lazy teachers blah blah blah. Schools back = freeloading parents. Schools out = freeloading teachers. Thoroughly contrary c**t. Well no, I'm just in favour of the controversial principle that school terms and their working week should be flexible enough to deal with the challenges of a global pandemic, rather than having the rest of society bend over backwards to suit the prehighlighted kitchen calendar dates of parents and teachers. This story really isn't all about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 ^^^^^^^^^ Archbishop of Banterbury found. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 St Mirren have returned 7 positives from their staff. Hopefully it's just another easily contained localised outbreak. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-squad-lockdown-paisley-22406745 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Only positives that shower will be getting from the upcoming season. If they can infect the panda, that would be grand. 6 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: St Mirren have returned 7 positives from their staff. Hopefully it's just another easily contained localised outbreak. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-squad-lockdown-paisley-22406745 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 VT has a real desire for teachers to work 6 day weeks. Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Tynierose said: I've survived 3 pints in the Whip Inn. I've had a pie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: VT has a real desire for teachers to work 6 day weeks. Why? I can see his point - modern workplaces have moved on from a Monday to Friday 9-5 system, schools have remained stuck in a system that was started 200 years ago - but I can't see logistically how it would work any other way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: St Mirren have returned 7 positives from their staff. Hopefully it's just another easily contained localised outbreak. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-squad-lockdown-paisley-22406745 Awaits the calls on the comments section to “postpone the 1st Aug games until 2021” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: St Mirren have returned 7 positives from their staff. Hopefully it's just another easily contained localised outbreak. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-squad-lockdown-paisley-22406745 Wouldn’t wish this on a worst enemy. Wait, Goodwin has it? Hmm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: St Mirren have returned 7 positives from their staff. Hopefully it's just another easily contained localised outbreak. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-squad-lockdown-paisley-22406745 Several doesn’t mean seven. ‘Petty things you would shoot people over’ thread for this I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Several doesn’t mean seven. ‘Petty things you would shoot people over’ thread for this I know.It's been reported elsewhere as 7 to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Well no, I'm just in favour of the controversial principle that school terms and their working week should be flexible enough to deal with the challenges of a global pandemic, rather than having the rest of society bend over backwards to suit the prehighlighted kitchen calendar dates of parents and teachers. This story really isn't all about them.Thankfully no such nonsense coming from any of the local councils down this way. It appears to be far more "can do" down here which is encouraging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Apparently Dumbarton has already emailed parents saying kids won’t be back until 17th August. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) A report in the wall street journal noted that Australia had seen around 260x less flu cases at the peak of it's flu season this year than last. https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-measures-have-all-but-wiped-out-the-flu-in-the-southern-hemisphere-11595440682?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/CxmK6oe3bv Obviously this will be largely down to the measures put in place for Covid-19 but, providing at least mask wearing in public places and good hand hygiene continues, coupled with a good uptake of the flu vaccine, then this winter could very well be the easiest winter for the NHS in a very long time. Edited July 23, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Monday 13th July said: Because he doesn't understand the industry, and the workload involved. Those who are parents will understand how hard it is to parent a few kids for a full day. Teachers do this x 25, before spending 6 hours at night prepping the following day's lessons. Then there's paperwork like forward plans and reports. Sure the holidays are decent but most teachers are in the classroom several days before the new term to prepare the classroom. I'm not a teacher btw. It doesn't pay well enough and the workload is far too high. Teachers haven't had even remotely a full workload for nearly four months and yet have still received full pay at the taxpayer's expense. They're also employed by the state to educate children to the desired standard, which hasn't and isn't going to happen under the same old setup. It's really not unreasonable then for them to be obliged to show greater flexibility in the middle of a pandemic to resolve the mounting backlog of issues that it has caused. Nobody's suggesting that a six day week becomes permanent: having some next spring instead of a February break ski trip to the Alps is preferable however to either i) shoving everyone into a school right now when local authorities aren't prepared for this or ii) providing children with a sub-standard education by never catching up on lost in-class teaching time. Almost every other industry has been badly impacted and in none of them would this inflexible attitude fly either at the organisational or employee level. It's time for teachers to step up and do their bit. Edited July 23, 2020 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Apparently Dumbarton has already emailed parents saying kids won’t be back until 17th August.It's inductions in week 1 and full time from 17th, seems to be the norm which is fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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