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Just now, Marshmallo said:

Yip. So who are we all going to catch the virus from now that the R rates are down and the estimated number of cases in the community is so low?

I'm a bloke on the internet. I know nothing. I think listening to professionals who have made this their life study is a better idea than listening to other random blokes on the internet.

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1 hour ago, D.A.F.C said:

Scotland is great, nobody tests like we do. England is rubbish.

Sounds a bit like trump.

The only reason scotland has done better is down to less people and a longer lockdown. Yes the track and trace will have helped but to say its somehow better than England is tub thumping nonsense.

You're having a fucking nightmare here m8.

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They are opening cinema's, shops, pubs and restaurants all of which are inside. Then surely there is scope for arguments sake letting 1500 people into a ground that holds 10,000. Most grounds have 4 stands/open terraces that can be used to spread out people and one way systems will be put into place.  The biggest issue would be everyone leaving at the full time which would need a bit of planning. At the end of the day you are stood/sat outdoors.

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Sorry if this is a stupid question but now with the 5 mile restrictions lifted and the ability to travel to a second home if facilities are not shared as of tomorrow would this mean I can travel to my parents house from my flat and stay over? The house and it's rooms are of a big enough size to socially distance and they only ever use their own on suite and never the main bathroom.

I don't want to go full on Dominic Cummings here and take my own interpretation of the rules but I'm a bit confused by this. I don't know if I'm maybe trying to bend the "second home" part to my own situation though. I've checked the route map and still no clearer.

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45 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
49 minutes ago, Detournement said:

 

Shop workers should have been wearing them all that time, many have been. In no circumstances can the wearing of a mask be described as a slap in the face, it's a logical prevention step. Clearly the Scottish public require to be "telt" and making it mandatory makes sense.

The only person who needed to be telt about this was - as ever - the Scottish Government's clinical director Jason Leitch:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52149139

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Prof Leitch said that face coverings were helpful for health care workers as they are in close contact with infectious patients.

However he suggested the Scottish government would not advise the general population to wear masks.

He said: "There is a cultural tradition in Asia to do it. That is principally because they have had airborne viruses in the past.

"This virus is not airborne - it has to be spread by droplets - hence the social distancing, the hand-washing.

"All of that is about keeping the droplets away from person-to-person spread.

"If this were in the air then the instructions would be very different, but it's not - so masks in the general population are not helpful."

He said "The global evidence is masks in the general population don't work."

 

Just the two months of everybody's time wasted while this clownshoes figure completed his latest, humiliating about-face. 

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3 minutes ago, pub car king said:

They are opening cinema's, shops, pubs and restaurants all of which are inside. Then surely there is scope for arguments sake letting 1500 people into a ground that holds 10,000. Most grounds have 4 stands/open terraces that can be used to spread out people and one way systems will be put into place.  The biggest issue would be everyone leaving at the full time which would need a bit of planning. At the end of the day you are stood/sat outdoors.

The clownshoes has already said no though so we'll presumably have to wait until December as his mind slowly trundles round to the reality that he's talking utter shite yet again.

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1 minute ago, Mad Capsule said:

Sorry if this is a stupid question but now with the 5 mile restrictions lifted and the ability to travel to a second home if facilities are not shared as of tomorrow would this mean I can travel to my parents house from my flat and stay over? The house and it's rooms are of a big enough size to socially distance and they only ever use their own on suite and never the main bathroom.

I don't want to go full on Dominic Cummings here and take my own interpretation of the rules but I'm a bit confused by this. I don't know if I'm maybe trying to bend the "second home" part to my own situation though. I've checked the route map and still no clearer.

Mate just do it. If you've been careful and they've been careful then there shouldn't be an issue. If you feel you could have been in contact with someone who had the virus, well, getting the green light from NS won't make a difference if you spread it. 

To answer your question specifically, I don't think going to your mum and dad's could be considered a second home. Think that's more another gaff younown, or like a caravan or lodge or something that someone else doesn't normally live in imo

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2 minutes ago, virginton said:

The clownshoes has already said no though so we'll presumably have to wait until December as his mind slowly trundles round to the reality that he's talking utter shite yet again.

It'll be October. The lower leagues would be pissed off at chucking 25% of their revenue away for no reason if crowds were allowed before then.

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21 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

I'm still laughing at the latest pish.

Aye wear face masks months after lockdown starts coz its noo important.  Well doh.

2m but 1m sometimes if mitigation allows and if you're 11 and 364 days f**k distancing but one day older stay away.

Basically giving you're inside leg measurement if you want to go for a drink or a meal.  Next up an App that limits you to one drink.

Well today should see the final collapse of the hospitality sector until they u-turn.

The science says, what about the science that doesn't say that but has been successful elsewhere.  Doesnt fit the agenda sorry.

Good luck ever going back to a gym or a concert or a sporting event.  Well unless you're under 12 that us.  Ah but the science says.

Some job has been done of terrifying the public over a virus that has a mortality rate of 0.08 pct.  A virus that unless you have loads of co-morbidities and unlucky you will be fine.

Punish the majority of a population and wreck your future for a small risk.

Let those who wish to sit in the house do do.  Let those who want to get on with their life do so.  

Better lock the country up again in November to March for flu season too.

Aye but but Nicola is keeping us all safe.  Sledgehammer to crack a fucking nut.

Jeeso….if I ever were in the same vicinity as you then I would be looking for the social distancing to be increased to at least 10m.

Some people are nae happy unless they have something to moan about.

You still laughing...?

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4 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

People dying in field hospitals because they went for a meal. Definitely create drama about this because it could happen here as well.

Got shot down for saying people shouldn't cram into pubs before the lockdown.

I get that people are bored but there's no easy and quick way out of this. Opening back up too early will result in another total lockdown and massive unemployment and an overwhelmed nhs. This isn't drama its just how viruses work. We have only contained it slightly. Unless we test everyone daily then it will just spread again via close indoor environments.

 

 

Apart from your made up statement about 'it's just how viruses work', could you please tell me what evidence you are basing this on? Out of all the countries in the world who have been reducing their lockdowns, which ones have seen a subsequent increase in ICU admissions and/or deaths leading to their health service being overwhelmed? Or even anything remotely approaching that?

It is a seasonal virus and the pattern across the board in the northern hemisphere is that deaths from the virus peak and then tail off into the summer, regardless of what measures countries took. Sweden didn't even have a lockdown and have followed the same pattern of deaths as every other country. South America are getting a battering just now as they head into winter. The idea that removing restrictions quickly will lead to the NHS being overwhelmed is just utter nonsense, it didn't even lead to that the first time when we were ill prepared, why would it now when we are prepared?

We still need to be careful because it is a serious virus, as winter approaches we'll need to be extra vigilant, and sensible social distancing measures need to be encouraged. But we also need to remember the countless other negative social and economic impacts of over-caution like you are displaying. Hysterical comments based on nothing like yours are completely unhelpful.

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31 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

I'm still laughing at the latest pish.

Aye wear face masks months after lockdown starts coz its noo important.  Well doh.

2m but 1m sometimes if mitigation allows and if you're 11 and 364 days f**k distancing but one day older stay away.

Basically giving you're inside leg measurement if you want to go for a drink or a meal.  Next up an App that limits you to one drink.

Well today should see the final collapse of the hospitality sector until they u-turn.

The science says, what about the science that doesn't say that but has been successful elsewhere.  Doesnt fit the agenda sorry.

Good luck ever going back to a gym or a concert or a sporting event.  Well unless you're under 12 that us.  Ah but the science says.

Some job has been done of terrifying the public over a virus that has a mortality rate of 0.08 pct.  A virus that unless you have loads of co-morbidities and unlucky you will be fine.

Punish the majority of a population and wreck your future for a small risk.

Let those who wish to sit in the house do do.  Let those who want to get on with their life do so.  

Better lock the country up again in November to March for flu season too.

Aye but but Nicola is keeping us all safe.  Sledgehammer to crack a fucking nut.

COVID and lockdown appears to have broken you. You used to be a decent poster but these regular heads gone posts you’re coming out with now are dreadful.

Relax.

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Sorry if this is a stupid question but now with the 5 mile restrictions lifted and the ability to travel to a second home if facilities are not shared as of tomorrow would this mean I can travel to my parents house from my flat and stay over? The house and it's rooms are of a big enough size to socially distance and they only ever use their own on suite and never the main bathroom.

I don't want to go full on Dominic Cummings here and take my own interpretation of the rules but I'm a bit confused by this. I don't know if I'm maybe trying to bend the "second home" part to my own situation though. I've checked the route map and still no clearer.


Do you currently live on your own? If so, you’ve been able to travel and stay with your parents for a few weeks now.
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Apart from your made up statement about 'it's just how viruses work', could you please tell me what evidence you are basing this on? Out of all the countries in the world who have been reducing their lockdowns, which ones have seen a subsequent increase in ICU admissions and/or deaths leading to their health service being overwhelmed? Or even anything remotely approaching that?
It is a seasonal virus and the pattern across the board in the northern hemisphere is that deaths from the virus peak and then tail off into the summer, regardless of what measures countries took. Sweden didn't even have a lockdown and have followed the same pattern of deaths as every other country. South America are getting a battering just now as they head into winter. The idea that removing restrictions quickly will lead to the NHS being overwhelmed is just utter nonsense, it didn't even lead to that the first time when we were ill prepared, why would it now when we are prepared?
We still need to be careful because it is a serious virus, as winter approaches we'll need to be extra vigilant, and sensible social distancing measures need to be encouraged. But we also need to remember the countless other negative social and economic impacts of over-caution like you are displaying. Hysterical comments based on nothing like yours are completely unhelpful.
Texas, Florida, California. Seasonal you say
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