Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 R number between 0.6 and 0 8 0.1% of population predicted to currently be infectious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, FFCinthearea said: The situation is improving and we must be hitting pre lock-down levels now. The first day of lockdown the figures were: +83 cases (47) +4 deaths (2) At the peak, 2 weeks later, 7 day average infections were 343 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said: 0.1% of population predicted to currently be infectious Is it fair, therefore, to multiply the total infections to date by around 20? Doing so reduces the fatality rate of all infections to roughly 0.75% which is heavily weighted to those over 65 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 From BBC website, 'The first minister warns we may not be able to do everything in phase two, but she hopes that at least some easing will be possible.' Think we all know which bit isn't happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I see we got an explanation for the difference between daily new cases and the figures being contact traced. Appears our daily figures have never included positive cases from the mobile or non SG run testing services in Scotland however those cases are being traced (obviously) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 From BBC website, 'The first minister warns we may not be able to do everything in phase two, but she hopes that at least some easing will be possible.' Think we all know which bit isn't happening. Been obvious all week, 15 July it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 12 minutes ago, Steven W said: From BBC website, 'The first minister warns we may not be able to do everything in phase two, but she hopes that at least some easing will be possible.' Think we all know which bit isn't happening. Been obvious all week, 15 July it is. You wonder why that bit was included in Phase 2 to begin with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Steven W said: You wonder why that bit was included in Phase 2 to begin with? Exactly the point I was going to say! They should have listed it in phase 3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I wonder if they were expecting pubs to reopen in England at the same time, probably decided to push it back to be safe since England aren’t opening theirs until July. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The nutty proff latest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) That seems ridiculous to say at the moment, but I guess we will only really have a grasp on if he's talking out of his hoop at the end of the year. If "excess deaths" run negative for Q4, for example, he wouldn't be totally wrong. Edited June 11, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, mizfit said: I wonder if they were expecting pubs to reopen in England at the same time, probably decided to push it back to be safe since England aren’t opening theirs until July. Probably. The whole ethos of her policies seems to be to do roughly whatever England does, just a couple of weeks later. At present, due to the Tory backtrack, our schools are due to go back earlier than theirs. Can't imagine how that sits easy with her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 You wonder why that bit was included in Phase 2 to begin with?Correct it did seem to early given you could in effect meet umpteen strangers in a beer garden but restrictions still would prevent that (we assume) anywhere else outside. Ill thought out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Probably. The whole ethos of her policies seems to be to do roughly whatever England does, just a couple of weeks later. At present, due to the Tory backtrack, our schools are due to go back earlier than theirs. Can't imagine how that sits easy with her. Out kids go back the same time before England at that time of year every year, can't see that being an issue up here at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 5 minutes ago, Steven W said: Probably. The whole ethos of her policies seems to be to do roughly whatever England does, just a couple of weeks later. At present, due to the Tory backtrack, our schools are due to go back earlier than theirs. Can't imagine how that sits easy with her. Out kids go back the same time before England at that time of year every year, can't see that being an issue up here at all. I'm aware of that. After yesterday's backtrack, it's now by default that ours will go back several weeks before theirs. Considering the schools issue is the possibly the thorniest and most emotive of all, going by her track record I still can't imagine this would sit easy with NS. She'll probably be left with little choice, but in all this business, this will be one of very few aspects of coming out of lockdown that we'll take the lead on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 35 minutes ago, Steven W said: You wonder why that bit was included in Phase 2 to begin with? Correct it did seem to early given you could in effect meet umpteen strangers in a beer garden but restrictions still would prevent that (we assume) anywhere else outside. Ill thought out. Was it? Phase two also involves being able to meet multiple groups outside in parks, in addition to meeting one other household, socially distanced, inside. Assuming that first bit survives, I dont see why the beer gardens couldnt open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woolshed Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Phase 2&3 suggest meeting a household indoors still socially distancing. To stay over at your parents house for example, would that have to wait until phase 4? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, renton said: Was it? Phase two also involves being able to meet multiple groups outside in parks, in addition to meeting one other household, socially distanced, inside. Assuming that first bit survives, I dont see why the beer gardens couldnt open. Several times now she's said that phase 2 should go ahead. But always qualified it with 'in part' or 'most of'. There's obviously some bit(s) that aren't going to be happening. Beer gardens surely the most likely candidate (hope I'm wrong!), but if not, then what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Considering the construction industry has been given the go ahead to start returning, I don’t see it being anything but the beer gardens. Outdoor catering may be allowed, but I can see beer gardens being asked to stay closed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steven W said: Several times now she's said that phase 2 should go ahead. But always qualified it with 'in part' or 'most of'. There's obviously some bit(s) that aren't going to be happening. Beer gardens surely the most likely candidate (hope I'm wrong!), but if not, then what? I actually think beer gardens are probably small change really: not all pubs that have them will want to open as they might struggle to turn a profit unless the garden is big enough, and our changeable weather probably precludes a lot of people using them anyway. You may well be right, but my guess is the effect of allowing them to open will not be that they all open and are stowed out the door. The two big ticket items to me are the ability to meet multiple households outdoors and the one household indoors, and it's the latter that I'd be concerned about losing out on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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