welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, bendan said: Yes, we can be sure warm temperatures don't stop the virus all by themselves. Would it be worse in cooler temperatures? We'll have to wait and see. It was chilly in Iran when it first kicked off, and it hasn't seemed to have taken hold in Africa. As you say, too early to tell, too many variables. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr Pikey said: I think saying you can catch Covid through your knob is a bit far-fetched tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 21 hours ago, Steven W said: My own personal thoughts are that we're thundering along towards a job market abyss, and for a fair amount child care issue will be negated via unemployment / reduced hours owing to lack of demand for products. However, obviously that creates another, bigger, problem... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-52955200 The employment situation is going to get really grim before much longer, especially with furlough winding down soon. There should be very few people in the country feeling confident about their income over the coming years. Demand for goods is going to plummet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, bendan said: Yes, we can be sure warm temperatures don't stop the virus all by themselves. Would it be worse in cooler temperatures? We'll have to wait and see. I thought humidity was a more important factor with dry conditions being better when it comes to reducing spread of the virus - however a quick Google shows there are about as many opinions as there are scientists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I used to be a researcher working on respiratory virus transmission. I moved on in 2014, and although I keep my eye on what's happening and know quite a few of the people involved at the moment, my finger is off the pulse a bit so I might well have missed things. Certainly back then the seasonal/cyclic nature of virus outbreaks was something that was poorly understood, but generally accepted that it involved multiple factors. Respiratory viruses do tend to crop up in the winter, and being indoors more almost certainly does play a part, however if it was that alone then you'd expect to see more significant outbreaks in colder countries (or colder regions of countries compared to warmer regions), but you don't really get that. You'd also expect that all respiratory viruses to have infection peaks at similar times matching weather patterns/indoor times over the course of a winter, but again you don't really get that: some peak in November, some in March, the other coronaviruses that have been circulating for years (229E, OC43, NL63) tend to match the flu season and usually peak in December/January. If we abandoned social distancing etc then I wouldn't be surprised if Covid-19 eventually fell into a similar patter to the other coronaviruses. Respiratory viruses do tend to settle in to a yearly cyclic pattern though, but when a new one comes along it sometimes takes a couple of waves for that to happen. When swine flu hit, the first wave was May/June 2009, and it came back again in early autumn of the same year. It was only really the third wave that it started to fall into the usual cycle for influenza. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 My sheltered housing office popped this through my letter-box this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just got a text from scot gov - NS to explain what's happening to the shielding people in her 12.30 statement today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I see New Zealand are ready to go "back to normal" now they have had no new cases for 17 days and, on top of that, no one in hospital with it. Not "new normal" but normal. If the SG were to come out and say when we achieve the same we would also return to normal (instead of constantly pushing the "new normal" bollocks) i'm certain people would be less inclined to take the piss and also stop moaning. Edited June 8, 2020 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 NZ stock market is also back at Pre-Covid value. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fife Saint said: NZ stock market is also back at Pre-Covid value. 5 Sheep instead of 3 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I see New Zealand are ready to go "back to normal" now they have had no new cases for 17 days and, on top of that, no one in hospital with it. Not "new normal" but normal. If the SG were to come out and say when we achieve the same we would also return to normal (instead of constantly pushing the "new normal" bollocks) i'm certain people would be less inclined to take the piss and also stop moaning. I think the “new normal” rhetoric is more about managing expectations than the reality. Hand washing, distancing, no hospitality, events, crowds etc. are, unfortunately, going to be with us for a while yet looking at the approach of the SG. Eventually things will fall back to the way they were before, but I doubt there will be some sort of fanfare announcement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Biscuits said: Just got a text from scot gov - NS to explain what's happening to the shielding people in her 12.30 statement today @Honest Saints Fan @madwullie @pandarilla @Wee Willie Edited June 8, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, super_carson said: I think the “new normal” rhetoric is more about managing expectations than the reality. Hand washing, distancing, no hospitality, events, crowds etc. are, unfortunately, going to be with us for a while yet looking at the approach of the SG. NS has worded "The New Normal" as if we are to be expected to think that it'll be in place forever more (in the UK). Ultimately hence the "new normal" expression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I see New Zealand are ready to go "back to normal" now they have had no new cases for 17 days and, on top of that, no one in hospital with it. Not "new normal" but normal. I think this is quite a staggering achievement. They've been in strict lockdown since March, with strong, decisive leadership. It's also staggering that their total number of deaths from Covid is only 22. Anyone care to prove me wrong with the death number? I've been checking and it seems to be legit. Edited June 8, 2020 by oldbitterandgrumpy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just got a text from scot gov - NS to explain what's happening to the shielding people in her 12.30 statement today Extended until the end of July is the verdict, but from the 18th of June outdoor exercise is permitted. Still no contact with anyone outside the household though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Things not looking great in a few of the states that opened up early. Shows the wisdom of getting cases as low as possible and to enforce non-medical interventions when fully we are fully opening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, welshbairn said: @Honest Saints Fan @madwullie @pandarilla @Wee Willie Thanks mate. Got this text too but I completely forgot about it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Paco said: Extended until the end of July is the verdict, but from the 18th of June outdoor exercise is permitted. Still no contact with anyone outside the household though. That is ridiculous tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Paco said: Extended until the end of July is the verdict, but from the 18th of June outdoor exercise is permitted. Still no contact with anyone outside the household though. Need to see what she says but that seems a bit over the top when there has been 1 new case in Inverclyde this week. I've not let anyone in my dads for 12 weeks except Nurses but was planning on geting the carers back in for the morning routine next week. Will maybe postpone it till the 18th but I'm starting to go stir crazy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, dirty dingus said: Need to see what she says but that seems a bit over the top when there has been 1 new case in Inverclyde this week. I've not let anyone in my dads for 12 weeks except Nurses but was planning on geting the carers back in for the morning routine next week. Will maybe postpone it till the 18th but I'm starting to go stir crazy. There was chat or things being a bit more personalised for each individual case, but I guess we'll see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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