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8 hours ago, 101 said:

Doesn't Scotland's largest population centers already have the highest levels of infection? Asking people to stay in their local area is clear guidance. It would be a real worry if the country could only follow laws rather than sensible advice.

That doesn't mean that the majority of people in Glasgow or Edinburgh have already been exposed to the virus though, or anything close to that. Which means that the most harmful thing you can do in terms of keeping the caseload low right now is to cram the 95% who aren't infected in the same public spaces as the minority who are likely harbouring the virus.

8 hours ago, sophia said:

Not me in the highlands champ.

I sympathise but failures in your region to show a requisite degree of self discipline will impinge upon me not a jot.

Good luck restarting your entirely tourist and government subsidy dependent economy then, when the state scraps your tourism season and has to pay through the nose for another urban lockdown. 

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7 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

That would go against the trends seen elsewhere, though, including places which go a lot further and allow cafés, restaurants and bars to open. Based on the data available there is really no reason to expect infections to rise in Greater Glasgow if people go to the parks.

Well obviously - because by opening the outside area of cafés, bars etc. you have also provided far more outdoor public space for your population as well. When you instead tell them to socialise outdoors but only in the handful of public parks in their city, you are guaranteeing that crowding will happen in those spaces. 

The rest of your claims (and of others) are based on the idea that there is a naive immunity population in rural Scotland who would be exposed to the virus by more hardy incomers from the plague-ridden cities. This is bollocks though. There's no evidence of widespread exposure to the virus among any population group as of yet, which means that the overwhelming majority of the uninfected population in fact still live in Greater Glasgow, Edinburgh etc. The best way to prevent a second spike in infections in Scotland then is to ensure that they're not going to be crammed in like sardines this weekend and for the foreseeable future.

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Which would be a ridiculous question. Had by what? BJ pretty much promised to "Get Brexit done" and nothing else.
He's delivered them that.
Any and all deficiencies in his character etc aren't really a surprise.
Anyone who voted Conservative and is now annoyed by their vote really only have themselves to blame.
Except he hasn't delivered on Brexit, has he? But thanks for the reminder of the rotten cherry to be dropped on the rancid icing of the Tories' cake of shite.
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7 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

Scoop: According to my source inside St Andrew's House

The Coronavirus response programmeis now called 

Test And Protect

Because

Test Trace Isolate Support

was being referred to as "tits" 

Copyright US Law Enforcement.

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1 hour ago, virginton said:

That doesn't mean that the majority of people in Glasgow or Edinburgh have already been exposed to the virus though, or anything close to that. Which means that the most harmful thing you can do in terms of keeping the caseload low right now is to cram the 95% who aren't infected in the same public spaces as the minority who are likely harbouring the virus.

You're speaking as if people are being strong armed into going to the park.

If you've not had coronavirus, then avoid going to a public space thats filled to the brim with people.

It's very simple.

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Well obviously - because by opening the outside area of cafés, bars etc. you have also provided far more outdoor public space for your population as well. When you instead tell them to socialise outdoors but only in the handful of public parks in their city, you are guaranteeing that crowding will happen in those spaces. 

The rest of your claims (and of others) are based on the idea that there is a naive immunity population in rural Scotland who would be exposed to the virus by more hardy incomers from the plague-ridden cities. This is bollocks though. There's no evidence of widespread exposure to the virus among any population group as of yet, which means that the overwhelming majority of the uninfected population in fact still live in Greater Glasgow, Edinburgh etc. The best way to prevent a second spike in infections in Scotland then is to ensure that they're not going to be crammed in like sardines this weekend and for the foreseeable future.

A handful of parks in their city......spoken like a true 90 (NINETY) fingered Inverclyde mutant. 90 parks in Glasgow alone ya walloper. Glasgow has the highest infection rate in Scotland so best policy is to get the Weegies out the city and into rural areas with low infection rates. Jesus wept, you are incredibly thick. An incredible 13.5% of the area of Glasgow is usable green space, just about highest in the UK. https://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/glasgow-top-tree-most-greenspace-scottish-cities-1445329

 

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6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
40 minutes ago, virginton said:
Well obviously - because by opening the outside area of cafés, bars etc. you have also provided far more outdoor public space for your population as well. When you instead tell them to socialise outdoors but only in the handful of public parks in their city, you are guaranteeing that crowding will happen in those spaces. 
The rest of your claims (and of others) are based on the idea that there is a naive immunity population in rural Scotland who would be exposed to the virus by more hardy incomers from the plague-ridden cities. This is bollocks though. There's no evidence of widespread exposure to the virus among any population group as of yet, which means that the overwhelming majority of the uninfected population in fact still live in Greater Glasgow, Edinburgh etc. The best way to prevent a second spike in infections in Scotland then is to ensure that they're not going to be crammed in like sardines this weekend and for the foreseeable future.

A handful of parks in their city......spoken like a true 90 (NINETY) fingered Inverclyde mutant. 90 parks in Glasgow alone ya walloper. Glasgow has the highest infection rate in Scotland so best policy is to get the Weegies out the city and into rural areas with low infection rates. Jesus wept, you are incredibly thick.

You spelled Dundee wrong m9

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Dunno m80 wouldn't they all have to drive to the nice bits and ruin the air quality you were on about before? Seems a bit selfish if you ask me, just you stay put. Bit of consideration.
The problem with that is the narrative we are now living in is "loosening of lockdown". If people dont see a tangible loosening of restrictions personally within the scope and limitations of the rules, then they will start to bend them to suit.

If you are declaring the lockdown is loosening, you do have to loosen it or the public will do it for you. Another good example of the world as it is, not how it should be
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Most of scotland was already at phase 1 already and a small minority will go full party mode this weekend.
Personally I've had a parent round in the garden once or twice a week sitting at distance for over a month when it's been sunny and breezy.
Was furloughed and only going out for a small walk in local park at night so had zero contact.

Will go on a longer outdoor walk on sat to somewhere that's pretty quiet with my dad as we can walk at a distance but still talk.

I'm sure loch Lomond and other beauty spots will be ned central.

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Went for a jog around my local park in Edinburgh last night, there was definitely more folk about but, for the most part, they looked like family groups that were well spread out.  Apart from one group of about 10-15 folk, mixture of younger kids and older teens, all congregating together without a single damn given - would expect to see more of that type of thing throughout the summer.  

As DAFC says, the new changes aren't really changing much in terms of people meeting up - folk that wanted to do it have already been doing it a number of weeks.  If people are sensible and stick to the distancing/masks it hopefully won't be a problem.  

 

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Sunak announcing later that Furlough will be a case of employers paying 20% and Govt 60% from August. Also the Govt won’t pay the 60% unless employers agree to pay 20%.

So in short, expect a lot of unemployment and anger being directed at them.

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1 minute ago, mizfit said:

Sunak announcing later that Furlough will be a case of employers paying 20% and Govt 60% from August. Also the Govt won’t pay the 60% unless employers agree to pay 20%.

So in short, expect a lot of unemployment and anger being directed at them.

There's going to be a load of employers finding out there are quite a few positions and/or people they can manage fine without. Great for productivity, shite for long term unemployment.

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2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

Phoned up my folks about visiting, within seconds it was all 'How does Wee Nippy keep her hair short eh?'. I was hoping for just a nice visit in the garden but I suppose I'll have to go armed with a load of information to begin the deradicalisation process.

With all due respect to your parents, I often find it's best not to socialise with people that use the "wee nippy" and "jimmy krankie" names for the FM. The hallmark of a moron IMO. 

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2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

Phoned up my folks about visiting, within seconds it was all 'How does Wee Nippy keep her hair short eh?'. I was hoping for just a nice visit in the garden but I suppose I'll have to go armed with a load of information to begin the deradicalisation process.

You should go with a huge Afro and beard wig combo.

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:

You're speaking as if people are being strong armed into going to the park.

If you've not had coronavirus, then avoid going to a public space thats filled to the brim with people.

Unless you're interested in meeting up with people outside your immediate household for the first time in ten weeks of course - though I can see why that thought didn't occur to a tragic sadact like yourself. 

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