superbigal Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 FWIW, there is no cover up. Deaths in hospital are registered quickly and the capacity is on hand to test for Covid. Deaths outside hospitals can take a week to file the paper work and there is no capacity, at the moment, to test all dead. So total deaths lags the Covid hospital deaths by about 2 weeks. This has been discussed before that several people have raised the probability of a rise in non Covid deaths out of hospital due to people failing to go to hospital. Many heart specialists around the world are saying they are seeing a lot less non Covid cases than usual (as an example). Anyone trying to insinuate conspiracies without good evidence and a clear understanding of how the ONS data works are best dismissed. There is a lot of speculation being passed off as fact. Belgium doesn't seem to have a problem being up to date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: They could take bets on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, Herman Hessian said: also, fair play to the girl for holding the mainstay or whatever it's called in her teeth whilst driving the thing at the same time... They're very keen on flossing over there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Helen Lovejoy's out in force at the prospect of someone going outside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Should we expect non-essential workers to pay a higher proportion of tax in future? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I don't think there's a chance in hell of effectively managing social distancing for a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: I'd be going full pirate Up the Arrrrrrrrrrse? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 STV News tonight, first of all stating 537 deaths in care homes in the past week, then after coming back from a report, saying the care home deaths have risen from 237 to 537 in the last week. Not the same thing. Really shoddy reporting. The overall total from the care homes seems to be 537.I noticed similar on the bbc Scotland website - some unclear reporting.I was checking the daily totals page for a while as i liked the graphs, especially relating to hospital cases across the country. Last night it had disappeared, and the Scottish live page was replaced by the British page. Its back today, but completely different. Details and consistency matter at this time, and there's a lot of poor reporting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Hessian Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: I'd be going full pirate good call - i reckon a swift bit of grappling over her aft-end, smartly coming about and luffing up her spanker would soon see her going down with all hands etc etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, pub car king said: I don't think there's a chance in hell of effectively managing social distancing for a year. That depends a lot on the numbers dying every day. Fear is a great controller. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I noticed similar on the bbc Scotland website - some unclear reporting. I was checking the daily totals page for a while as i liked the graphs, especially relating to hospital cases across the country. Last night it had disappeared, and the Scottish live page was replaced by the British page. Its back today, but completely different. Details and consistency matter at this time, and there's a lot of poor reporting. 'Not sure about that. Where are they getting their information from, and are they being told what to say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Herman Hessian said: good call - i reckon a swift bit of grappling over her aft-end, smartly coming about and luffing up her spanker would soon see her going down with all hands etc etc... That's really fucking weird, mate. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, jagfox99 said: Looks like Tony Christie was prescient. “Oh Las Vegas, you’ll be the death of me...” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 BBC Scotland news say 1600 deaths “related to coronavirus”, why can’t they just say if covid killed them or not, instead of using numbers like that to scare folk -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 'Not sure about that. Where are they getting their information from, and are they being told what to say?Ok then poor editorial decisions.The last two days it has definitely changed, and there's no way it's better.I understood sturgeon last week when she explained the two different figures and the reasons for them. Today's bbc Scotland page was not in any way clear, and you get the impression someone is shifting the goalposts, either by accident or design. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: BBC Scotland news say 1600 deaths “related to coronavirus”, why can’t they just say if covid killed them or not, instead of using numbers like that to scare folk The coranavirus or its symptoms can be present with other medical problems when somebody dies, without it definitely being the cause of death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: The coranavirus or its symptoms can be present with other medical problems when somebody dies, without it definitely being the cause of death. I know, I just think if someone dies and it isn’t purely due to Coronavirus then it shouldn’t be counted in the death figures -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Ok then poor editorial decisions. The last two days it has definitely changed, and there's no way it's better. I understood sturgeon last week when she explained the two different figures and the reasons for them. Today's bbc Scotland page was not in any way clear, and you get the impression someone is shifting the goalposts, either by accident or design. Accident or design. Yes, that really is the nub of the matter. I would be inclined to put my money on design. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Thereisalight.. said: I know, I just think if someone dies and it isn’t purely due to Coronavirus then it shouldn’t be counted in the death figures What should it be counted under then? If it’s a contributor then why not count it under those stats! Spoiler it will be counted under other stats as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 All of us in 2021. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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