ICTChris Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 I'm not criticising people for doing it, I think it's understandable but there seems to be a mentality about the restirctions where people think "what can I do that pushes as far as possible to the edge of the interpretation of the law?". The example someone gave ages ago was people kayaking and saying "well the rules don't say you can't". My own mother-in-law immediately when they brought in restrictions started planning how she could visit us without getting too close, she was wanting to come round, go straight into our garden and stay on teh decking while my son played on the grass, stuff like that. We had to kind of gently say that we aren't supposed to be doing that. This golf chat is similar, you can see someone thinking "well I'm outside, I'm nowhere near anyone, I'm on my own" but it's kind of missing the point. An interesting mentality among a lot of people when it comes to this. There's also a lot of people who just don't give a f**k about rules or laws or conventions or their neighbours, hence house parties with bouncy castles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Do points 4 and 5 not slightly contradict each other? [emoji848]I refer the honourable gentleman to the post above yours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, speckled tangerine said: If they are self employed and have either tried the usual dodges to avoid paying the right amount of tax (claiming dividends as a company director/underreporting actual earnings), they'll be fucked for government bungs. This will be the case if they are recently self employed. In the first two cases I have little sympathy. In the later they have basically no choice of working or going down the UC route. I know at least one who is self employed, and does everything kosher through an accountant etc. He was shiting himself before they announced the help for self employed. Unsire how far he has gotten in terms of getting access to the money as yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Forgive me if I read it wrong but I'm sure I read that police in Manchester claim they broke up 500 house parties at the weekend. [emoji28]About 20 in one part of the southside of Glasgow last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: I know at least one who is self employed, and does everything kosher through an accountant etc. He was shiting himself before they announced the help for self employed. Unsire how far he has gotten in terms of getting access to the money as yet. I think it was June that the scheme was due to start ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Then I'll explain that the subject of the joke is the person making such a ludicrous statement, rather than anyone mentioned in it. Doesn't stop the word police. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Can't see anything going wrong with this https://www.ft.com/content/fb1a6279-a3f8-4181-ac64-3369b2ed1ae2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I'm not criticising people for doing it, I think it's understandable but there seems to be a mentality about the restirctions where people think "what can I do that pushes as far as possible to the edge of the interpretation of the law?". The example someone gave ages ago was people kayaking and saying "well the rules don't say you can't". My own mother-in-law immediately when they brought in restrictions started planning how she could visit us without getting too close, she was wanting to come round, go straight into our garden and stay on teh decking while my son played on the grass, stuff like that. We had to kind of gently say that we aren't supposed to be doing that. This golf chat is similar, you can see someone thinking "well I'm outside, I'm nowhere near anyone, I'm on my own" but it's kind of missing the point. An interesting mentality among a lot of people when it comes to this. There's also a lot of people who just don't give a f**k about rules or laws or conventions or their neighbours, hence house parties with bouncy castles. Not particularly relevant in the current crisis but blindly trusting authorities isn’t necessarily a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Everyone over 40 when they introduce a youth first end to lockdown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greendot Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: BBC might miss the mark here if sympathy is the response they are going for.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52206832 They did also give readers an idea on how they can afford such a holiday though ....... https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5e7dad06-c48d-4509-b3e4-6a7a2783ce30 Although this one was a bit of an unusual one as well https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52091928 My heart bleeds when a russian billionaire is 'I'm down to my last $70 million' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Sorry, but nobody's talking about penalising success, what we're talking about is NOT paying ridiculous sums of money to certain individuals whether that be Premiership footballers, Company CEO's or anyone else who's in the SUPER RICH bracket. Handing Paul Pogba £10,000 per week instead of £290,000 isn't "penalising" anyone, it's paying someone £520,000 p/a when the median wage is less than £35,000 in the country and the minimum wage is around £16,000.00. As for company CEO's, they are paid huge bonuses and salary's irrespective of success or failure and there's quite a few high profile guys who fail time and time again, yet still make it on the Forbes list. (Yes Andy, I'm looking at you). There's also far too much nepotism and old boys network which make the whole setup an absolute sham. The regulators are part of it as are the politicians and as such the whole system is rotten to the core. Of course most of the country don't care about stuff like this as they're far more interested in the lives and loves of z list celebrities, which ironically is a major part of the problem in the first place. There are a myriad of problems surrounding the issue of taxation, including some of those you mention. But, let's start with the low lying fruit and start getting corporations to pay taxes relative to their revenue. As a start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 https://www.smh.com.au/national/burns-patients-clog-precious-icu-beds-thanks-to-home-cooking-spike-20200409-p54ijd.html Quote People burning themselves while cooking are taking up intensive care beds that may be needed for gravely ill coronavirus patients. Specialists at The Alfred hospital have reported a surge in severe burns since Victoria's stage-3 lockdown came into effect last month. Many of the injuries being treated at the hospital's burns unit have been caused by hot oil with others resulting from people cooking while intoxicated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, bennett said: This, buses and trains must be quite hazardous right now. I'm on the train everyday and to be fair to Scotrail they've been putting on 7 and 8 carriage trains to carry under 70 people (sometimes under 30). They've also started cleaning them regularly and you're not really coming into contact with anyone else as even getting on and off everyone has been following the social distancing rules. Although I'm commuting to Glasgow daily and in an office each day, the most vulnerable I've actually felt is when I'm down at my local Tesco for the shopping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, WATTOO said: I'm on the train everyday and to be fair to Scotrail they've been putting on 7 and 8 carriage trains to carry under 70 people (sometimes under 30). They've also started cleaning them regularly and you're not really coming into contact with anyone else as even getting on and off everyone has been following the social distancing rules. Although I'm commuting to Glasgow daily and in an office each day, the most vulnerable I've actually felt is when I'm down at my local Tesco for the shopping. And so you should mate https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203189/Coronavirus-simulation-shows-single-cough-spread-germans-two-supermarket-aisles.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, bennett said: Not everyone has a car and with public transport (my area ) being reduced some people will find taxis vital. Hopefully the drivers are cleaning their cabs . The Uber ones round here don't bother observing the laws of the road let alone recommendations for preventing Covid-19 spread so good luck with that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bohemian said: And so you should mate https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203189/Coronavirus-simulation-shows-single-cough-spread-germans-two-supermarket-aisles.html daily mail spreading germans! no fucking surprise from that clusterfuck of a paper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonHMFC Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Mentioned it a week back or so, but our company (travel industry) has decided not to take the Government scheme. Certainly seems like they've seen this as an opportunity to strip the company, and get rid of parts of the business which were not profitable. I am keeping my job, but a lot of people I'd class as friends have been made redundant this week. Left an incredibly sour taste. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bohemian said: And so you should mate https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203189/Coronavirus-simulation-shows-single-cough-spread-germans-two-supermarket-aisles.html Daily Heil sensationalist click bait. I hope you’re ashamed with yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, Bohemian said: No I wouldn't fancy it. My mate is a taxi driver. In his words, at least it means if he fancies a drive he can go one without feeling guilty. He's in his 30s though. Not sure fat 60 year old messes will be enjoying it quite so much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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