Lyle Lanley Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2/3 of the population of Scotland supported the restrictions announced at Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Apart from the period between both world wars, the late 70s and early 80s were the worst years in living memory for high inflation and high unemployment. Some of that pre-dated Thatcher. I remember the famous "Labour's not working" poster tapping right into public concern about that. Inflation, yes. That Saatchi and Saatchi poster became wildly ironic, however, in the years that immediately followed that Labour government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: It also doesn't take into account that people's political beliefs spread across both wings. Not everyone picks a team. In fact, the majority of people appear to be relatively floating voters. Personally, I believe in less state intervention in my day to day life and that we care far too much about the rights of criminals compared to what we do for victims of crime and that taxes should be as low as possible but I also very strongly believe that public transport should be free and state-owned, that we should have a single nationalised energy company, that we should retain a public owned water company, that we should have a nationalised drug pharmaceutical company, that the NHS should never be privatised, that private health provision should be banned because it negatively impacts on the NHS, allowing people with money to queue jump and that the millionaires who decided on Universal Credit and applied benefits caps without taking accommodation into account should be forced by law to live on UC for 2 years as punishment and that we should have free and open borders in every country in the world allowing passport and visa free movement for all humans regardless of country of birth for any reason whatsoever. Good luck to anyone trying to shoe-horn that lot into one political wing. They'd be doomed to failure. I'll give it a bash. Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Lyle Lanley said: Fair play the the BBC - headline and a half! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Thank you Monkey Tennis for ensuring we all don't fall under the charismatic spell of the dangerous demagogue Oaksoft. True praxis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: 2/3 of the population of Scotland supported the restrictions announced at Christmas. I’m pretty sure she’s straight up trolling us at this stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Particularly seething at NS’s response to DR this afternoon when he questioned why businesses forced to close were still waiting for promised support funds from weeks ago. NS essentially stating that only SG made money available for affected businesses and UK didn’t help businesses in England at all during their period of being able to trade freely. And people still lap this up from her?! FML man! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 The return to work guidance is so weak and fluffy that businesses will surely just ignore it and do what they like. Maybe that’s the real plan, tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I'm struggling to understand the mindset of these people. All the restrictions, masks and the vaccines have not succeeded in reducing infection to any level that can be described as under control. The only thing that works is isolating. It's like the woman greeting about the worker's mask in Costa. If she is genuinely worried about the virus why is she even going into a coffee shop? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Sounds like someone is seeking a transfer from twitter to P&B. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Detournement said: I'm struggling to understand the mindset of these people. All the restrictions, masks and the vaccines have not succeeded in reducing infection to any level that can be described as under control. The only thing that works is isolating. It's like the woman greeting about the worker's mask in Costa. If she is genuinely worried about the virus why is she even going into a coffee shop? Why don't they just shield for the rest of their lives then? Let the non-vulnerable people go back to pre- March 2020 life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: The return to work guidance is so weak and fluffy that businesses will surely just ignore it and do what they like. Which is exactly how it should be tbh. It should be for individual employers and employees to work out what works for both parties on an individual basis rather than diktats from the SG. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, oaksoft said: It also doesn't take into account that people's political beliefs spread across both wings. Not everyone picks a team. In fact, the majority of people appear to be relatively floating voters. Personally, I believe in less state intervention in my day to day life and that we care far too much about the rights of criminals compared to what we do for victims of crime and that taxes should be as low as possible but I also very strongly believe that public transport should be free and state-owned, that we should have a single nationalised energy company, that we should retain a public owned water company, that we should have a nationalised drug pharmaceutical company, that the NHS should never be privatised, that private health provision should be banned because it negatively impacts on the NHS, allowing people with money to queue jump and that the millionaires who decided on Universal Credit and applied benefits caps without taking accommodation into account should be forced by law to live on UC for 2 years as punishment and that we should have free and open borders in every country in the world allowing passport and visa free movement for all humans regardless of country of birth for any reason whatsoever. Good luck to anyone trying to shoe-horn that lot into one political wing. They'd be doomed to failure. Meaningless waffle unless you've changed your view on the increased taxation that would be needed to fund these sorta policies, which IIRC you referred to ludicrous/unacceptable or similar at the last GE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: And to think that it was your personal approval for my political opinions that I was after too. Gutted. So that'll be a no to the tax increases that would be required to fund the policies you pretend to espouse! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said: Which is exactly how it should be tbh. It should be for individual employers and employees to work out what works for both parties on an individual basis rather than diktats from the SG. I agree, they should just say that. But they just look a bit silly with trying to be prescriptive with advice that is really wooly and a nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Is today the biggest step in the SG saying get your arse back into the office? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Is today the biggest step in the SG saying get your arse back into the office? Seems like it- it’s definitely the first time they’ve talked about the benefits of allowing people to go into the office 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I'm expressing how distraught I am that I don't have your personal approval. Please reconsider. I hold you in the highest esteem and to have one of my heroes dissing me like this is, quite frankly, heartbreaking. Terribly childish Old Boy. Have you no plans to explain how you'd square the circle of funding hugely ambitious programmes while slashing taxes? Edited January 25, 2022 by Monkey Tennis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Not sure if mentioned earlier but checking vaccine status now only applies to crowds of 10k + 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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