Michael W Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Tom Watson's been busy since he quit as an MP, hasn't he? Chair of UK music, advisor to the gambling industry and now chair of the Laboratory and Testing Industry Organisation! Multi-talented man, isn't he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papad Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, oaksoft said: I actually don't know what Australia and NZ are aiming for here and I'm not convinced they do either. It hasn't stopped you spouting nonsense however. Australia (excluding WA) has adopted a living with covid approach months ago once 80 to 90% of the population was double vaccinated, including opening international borders. This approach has held firm despite the recent Omicron surge. The Australian 'aim' is perfectly clear. WA, by dint of its isolated location, has resisted Covid so far. Everyone knows that an Omicron outbreak is inevitable, indeed it looks like it it's happening now. Despite being the laughing stock of Australia, most people in WA support the border closures arguing they have spent most of the last 2 years living a normal life, mostly mask and lockdown free, but not being allowed to return to the state of they leave. They'll have a few lockdown as cases rise, but once the cases hit a few thousand a day that'll stop and the borders will reopen. There's just not the political capital to be gained by opening the borders before a major outbreak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Scottish government scrapping the test requirements entering the country following England's announcement today. Think it coming into effect this Friday might be sooner than England too but not 100% sure. ETA other journalists now saying it'll be 11th February so same as England. Edited January 24, 2022 by Pie Of The Month 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 hours ago, oaksoft said: At the local B&Q today, a member of staff greeted me at the door and said "Morning. Help yourself to a mask from the box there". That's the first time anyone has come near me about masks since I ditched them 8 or 9 months ago. A smile and "No thanks" and it was all fine. No need to be rude to the staff at all. Quite a few of us in there without masks so she must have been hearing No all morning. I have to say though - surely B&Q can find her something more constructive to do during the day without having her do this soul destroying job? There's a lot of cowardly chiefs ordering other low paid staff to take the risk of approaching customers about masks from the safety of their own offices without being prepared to tough it out themselves. I've went days without seeing a member of staff in B & Q. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 New travel rules from 11 February: All testing requirements for fully vaccinated travellers dropped Passenger locator form required For non-vaccinated travellers: Pre-departure test and passenger locator form required No self-isolation PCR on or before day 2 https://www.gov.scot/news/international-travel-restrictions-eased/ Great news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: I have family living in Nelson in the South Island, they've had pretty well zero restrictions since the start, no facemasks, nothing. A few weeks of semi lockdown while they roll out the boosters and try to slow the spread won't kill them. Being stuck in the South Pacific thousands of miles from anywhere gave them that option, sacrificing travel for freedom seems to have paid off for them. Auckland in the North Island has been one of the most locked down urban areas on the planet since March 2020. It's no surprise to see that your family are just as selective in their focus on restrictions (I'm alright Jack) as their gormless connection. Edited January 24, 2022 by vikingTON 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I've went days without seeing a member of staff in B & Q. Is that on the many days you don’t got to B&Q. Not surprised if so. Edited January 24, 2022 by Left Back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: New travel rules from 11 February: All testing requirements for fully vaccinated travellers dropped Passenger locator form required For non-vaccinated travellers: Pre-departure test and passenger locator form required No self-isolation PCR on or before day 2 https://www.gov.scot/news/international-travel-restrictions-eased/ Great news. With no isolation period or testing requirement, whats the thinking behind the PLF for vaccinated people? Edited January 24, 2022 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Quote While this is a positive step which will be welcomed by many we believe further surveillance measures will be necessary across all nations The always wanting to do something act is really boring now tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 My wife has tested positive, my son and I are both negative. It feels a bit strange to be carrying on as normal with someone having Covid in the house but it is good to be able to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, ICTChris said: My wife has tested positive, my son and I are both negative. It feels a bit strange to be carrying on as normal with someone having Covid in the house but it is good to be able to do it. Similar here. The other half is negative & WFH but I'm riddled. Quite enjoying being a lazy shite, watching telly all day, while she spends her days on zoom & answering calls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: With no isolation period or testing requirement, whats the thinking behind the PLF for vaccinated people? It's all about climbing down while saving face and looking cautious. I image things will start to crumble like dominos across Europe in the coming months. Another minter for Detournement. 43 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: The always wanting to do something act is really boring now tbh. Again, it's the only way they can climbdown because of the corner they have backed themselves into over the past two years. Edited January 24, 2022 by Elixir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 41 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: The always wanting to do something act is really boring now tbh. I realise variants are generally mocked on here as being something to scare children with, but most people outside this bubble think they're worth keeping an eye on, and stopping tests for incoming flights will require another approach. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I realise variants are generally mocked on here as being something to scare children with, but most people outside this bubble think they're worth keeping an eye on, and stopping tests for incoming flights will require another approach. How many variants has testing inbound travellers kept out of the country? Same question for quarantines and isolation for inbound travellers. What did any of the above achieve? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I realise variants are generally mocked on here as being something to scare children with, but most people outside this bubble think they're worth keeping an eye on, and stopping tests for incoming flights will require another approach. Like what? As @Left Back points out, there is little point looking for new imported variants after people are here because, by the time you sequence and identify it, it's already here and being seeded. ETA do you ever think anything a member of the SG says about covid is daft, or is your default position simply "must defend" Edited January 24, 2022 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, badgerthewitness said: Similar here. The other half is negative & WFH but I'm riddled. Quite enjoying being a lazy shite, watching telly all day, while she spends her days on zoom & answering calls. I'm isolating until Thursday at the earliest. Needing a couple of negative LFTs by then though. Still no sign of the second line getting any fainter. Is that how it works, does anyone know, or will it just disappear altogether from one day to the next? Feeling a bit groggy, but that's all. I'm certainly not unwell enough to be off work, were it not for the need to isolate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I realise variants are generally mocked on here as being something to scare children with, but most people outside this bubble think they're worth keeping an eye on, and stopping tests for incoming flights will require another approach. Good thing we have terrific community surveillance to do that job. Do we track the antigenic drift of infuenza at the airport? No we don't. No variant sets us back to square one, nor will the next one prolong the pandemic. So, more utterly pointless concern on your part. Let's not forget the clearly tremendous job that inbound testing has done at keeping those pesky variants out either! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, badgerthewitness said: Similar here. The other half is negative & WFH but I'm riddled. Quite enjoying being a lazy shite, watching telly all day, while she spends her days on zoom & answering calls. Any idea how you caught it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Granted it's David Nabarro, but I see the WHO are as out of touch and scrambling for relevance as ever. The UK and Ireland have already stopped buying what they're selling, and the rest of Europe will be following in the next couple of months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Left Back said: How many variants has testing inbound travellers kept out of the country? Same question for quarantines and isolation for inbound travellers. What did any of the above achieve? Not a lot but a bit of early warning by gene sequencing test samples I would think. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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