Detournement Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: The SG will have to follow England eventually. No chance people up here are gonna accept the new normal when all restrictions are gone from down south. England depends on Boris surviving until the summer. A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Regarding the SNP losing votes, the last Scottish poll I could find was from Boxing Day. The average polls for the Scottish Parliament showed the SNP vote up overall compared to the election. I do think that if it looks like Labour has a consistent lead in UK wide polling that will boost them in Scotland. I think that happened in 2017 when people switched to Labour because they were on an upturn. Do the SNP not consistently poll higher than they actually get? You always see projections of them winning a majority or taking all the seats in Westminster or whatever and they never quite get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: So today's figures include positive LFTs reported as well as PCRs. 8.2k positive results. 15% of PCRs positive. It's almost like every single thing the the South Africans said was right..... Hopefully the eventual Inquiry will reflect upon the disdain exhibited towards the South Africans by our experts in the early days of Omicron. Who can forget Whitty standing up and exclaiming that "everything we know about Omicron is real, real bad!1!". From memory our main focus, whilst the South Africans were calmly explaining the increased mildness of Omicron, was to restrict entry to any Zimbabweans or Namibians. Just so unbelievably stupid and short-sighted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. There have been some wild takes on this thread, but that is right up with the best of them. Edited January 13, 2022 by Abdul_Latif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennie Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: England depends on Boris surviving until the summer. A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. the country is already on the globalists schedule, Boris is on board -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Abdul_Latif said: There have been some wild takes on this thread, but this is right up with the best of them. Gove apparently wanted a full lockdown this winter. He has been parroting the same shit as Blair during the full pandemic and is completely owned by Rupert Murdoch. Sunak is a billionaire and is another one who would fall in with France, Germany, Australia etc. So would Javid who is a multi millionaire banker. There are also a few dark horse MPs who might be candidates for a Macron/Obama style rise to prominence. I've got my eye on Tom Tugendhat. It's hard to see a candidate who would have taken the course Johnson has this winter other than Truss and she is too crazy to be considered. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday and 16,000 people in hospital mean that it has essentially gone away? Goodness. This type of thing was alright in the early days but we are all far better educated now on these statistics than we were 2 years ago. Firstly, in the space of a single week at the end of December, around a million people tested positive for Covid. Of those million or so people, those that died for any reason whatsoever in the 28 days that follow will be counted as one of these deaths you quoted. You can discount that figure for, as @craigkillie said, if everyone caught covid all at once, then every death for the following month would be counted as a covid death. Use the death certificates number instead as it is likely to be a bit more accurate. Secondly, as has been said elsewhere, taking a single day/data point is misleading. Use the 7 day average - @superbigal does this here regularly. Thirdly, we know now that over a third of those in hospital with covid showed up at hospital for another reason (illness, mental illness, injury, etc) and just happened to test positive thereafter. Finally, I don't think anyone has said that covid has gone away, nor that anyone expects it to go away any time soon. It is here to stay, but is a different animal from the 2020 one for numerous reasons. Pointing at these headline numbers carries far less weight than it did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Certainly seem to have stirred up the Greek Chorus which dominates this thread, in truth I'm probably not so far off some of your views and have stated previously that Covid is now endemic and we have to change the way we deal with it. In particular I've also stated that the Scottish Government restriction have been too severe recently. That doesn't mean to say it's over, as the government figures demonstrate and I'm confident that the replies which I haven't read (subsequent to @Elixir's first) have been crass in the extreme. Special mention to @oaksoft who was the biggest doom-monger on BAWA back at the start but who has re-invented himself as the reincarnation of Che Guevara on P&B - there are none so fervent in their views as a convert. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Detournement said: Gove apparently wanted a full lockdown this winter. He might well have, but if he was actually PM and did it, the back benches would have their 54 letters of no confidence in before the end of the first week of lockdown. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: He might well have, but if he was actually PM and did it, the back benches would have their 54 letters of no confidence in before the end of the first week of lockdown. They did that to Theresa May and she survived the vote no problem. The Covid Research group are a minority in a historically large Tory backbench. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Worth doing a 24 hour Cases Update as the Tidal (Going Out) Wave continues: 3 Day lag to allow reporting to be accurate. Cases DOWN over 14% over a 1 day period. Cases are now DOWN OVER 40% in the last reported 7 Days. Only a raving Dentist or the like could now claim cases are on the rise. This with Schools being back and more LFTs than ever being conducted. Every single LA on the steep decline. Total Cases Scotland 7 days 4th January to 10th January were 79,739 to 68,508 Down 14.08%, Positivity was 26.0% now 24.4%. Cases per 100K were 1592.6 now 1253.3 Home Nations Weekly Cases per 100K update : England 1796 to 1723 down 4.06%, Wales 1942 to 1735 down 10.66%, Northern Ireland 2590 to 2311 down 10.77% Cases in Europe in terms of of numbers per 100K Ireland 3069, France 3029, Portugal 2296, Denmark 2248, Greece 2159, Switzerland 2024, Italy 1980, Spain 1,725, only countries over 1350. Council progress in last week as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview South Lanarkshire 1,851 to 1,582 Down near 15% and goes Top !! West Dunbartonshire 1,856 to 1,577 Inverclyde 1,835 to 1,528 Renfrewshire 1,713 to 1,444 North Ayrshire 1,602 to 1,372 North Lanarkshire 1,662 to 1,371 Down 17.50% Glasgow City 1,570 to 1,369 Falkirk 1,565 to 1,343 East Renfrewshire 1,592 to 1,338 East Ayrshire 1,521 to 1306 Fife 1,470 to 1,289 Dumfries & Galloway 1,458 to 1,282 Angus 1,424 to 1,258 Aberdeen City 1,401 to 1,238 Perth & Kinross 1,387 to 1,235 Moray 1,464 to 1,227 Dundee City 1,371 to 1,219 Clackmannanshire 1,449 to 1,213 South Ayrshire 1,437 to 1,206 Stirling 1,341 to 1,183 East Dunbartonshire 1,412 to 1,174 City Of Edinburgh 1,341 to 1,167 East Lothian 1,345 to 1,144 West Lothian 1,325 to 1,141 Midlothian 1,276 to 1,086 Aberdeenshire 1,170 to 1,009 Highlands 1,308 to 1,181 to 974 Argyll & Bute 1,084 to 932 Scottish Borders 1,004 to 818 Western Isles 616 to 563 Orkney Islands 692 to 514 Shetland Islands 608 to 451 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, Detournement said: England depends on Boris surviving until the summer. A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. I'll stick my neck out and say Boris is surviving. He's had the full Cabinet (with the obvious equivocation of Rishi) explicitly come out in support, while in the other corner wee Dougie has had a couple of disgruntled old no-mark MPs and his entire team of MSPs come out calling for his resignation. Boris has launched his full fleet at it, the resigners have got a couple of rubber ducks by comparison. Boris stays. And more to the point of this thread, England leads the way out and Scotland will be dragged along in its wake. Say what you like about him but sometimes determinedly blustering on in the face of those advising caution can sometimes provide a win. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Do the SNP not consistently poll higher than they actually get? You always see projections of them winning a majority or taking all the seats in Westminster or whatever and they never quite get there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2021_Scottish_Parliament_election Was slighty higher but quite a few in April had lower than they got. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_election_in_Scotland They got more in the election than predicted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2017_United_Kingdom_general_election#Scotland Polls got this miles wrong and was a lot less than they predicted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2016_Scottish_Parliament_election Polls got this miles wrong and was a lot less than they predicted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-national_opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election#Scotland More than the Polls predicted. Edited January 13, 2022 by betting competition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I've been busy and not really been looking at the news or papers this week.I take it the lightweight politician and the paedo prince have kept any discussion about the extension to vaccine passports off the front pages? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Astonishing collapse in case numbers and positivity rates. Excellent news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday and 16,000 people in hospital mean that it has essentially gone away? It is actually 19,735 hospital going with https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/ I agree it hasn't gone away yet, but hopefully its near the end game now. Edited January 13, 2022 by betting competition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Thorongil said: Astonishing collapse in case numbers and positivity rates. Excellent news. Going with travelling tabby they said the figure only includes PCR tests and they hope tomorrow to get some LFT results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Fifer said: FYI. Will be interesting to see the reply to that email. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Lyle Lanley said: Will be interesting to see the reply to that email. I suspect I won't get a response unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, betting competition said: It is actually 19,735 hospital going with https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/ I agree it hasn't gone away yet, but hopefully its near the end game now. Try telling that to Calmac who have 20% of their staff self isolating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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