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10 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Good and fair article.

One passage stands out in particular:-

"Her social media claims are amplified thousands of times by her followers, may of whom echo the worst of the Donald Trump base"

That is a peach of a sentence right there.

There is an element of trumpism creeping in, but theres also an element in the extreme edges of the other side. Its just an awful time in politics.

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1 hour ago, anotherchance said:

There are unfortunately people who’ll take one look at the headline and decide they don’t like it, but I’d love to see an SNP bootlicker try and take that article apart using facts and logic, without shit flinging or whataboutery.

 

7 minutes ago, WeAreElgin said:

Josh Taylor and Neil Mackay being fanboyed in this thread. A new low

Wow! it took just over an hour 

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Just now, WeAreElgin said:

Sure, I like a bit of confirmation bias as much as the next person.

Someone that gets punched in the head for a living talking about "fascist states" is unironically hilarious

I said nothing about the boxer, but please, by all means, point out what was incorrect with the newspaper article?

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I followed it reasonably well until it dropped in "mainstream media" like this is the USA or something. It reads like a tearstained rant. If Scotgov truly hated the "mainstream media" as much as wee Neil claims then it's surprising that so much time has been committed to press coverage.

Also Neil Mackay is an even bigger roaster than Sturgeon so that somewhat sways the general feeling of the article. Hope this helps!

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1 hour ago, Lofarl said:

Does anyone know if anyone getting covid after their booster?  I’ve only known a few people getting it after double vaccination and a few before vaccinations were available.

Yes, myself. Booster on the 20th, positive test on the 24th. 

Almost certainly had it and didn't know when I got the booster. Mrs W (also tested positive) was very ill after her booster, spent the entire night being sick and most the next day in bed recovering. She took a LFT a couple days later as she still didn't feel 100% yet and it was positive. I then took one and unsurprisingly got the same result, confirmed with a PCR. 

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1 hour ago, WATTOO said:

Without getting involved in the politics, the bottom line is that if England have virtually no restrictions but have an equal or even lower rate than ourselves and Wales who both have pretty draconian restrictions so far as hospitality and sports are concerned, then right away there is no longer ANY sort of rationale to continue with restrictions, which are at best completely pointless and at worse doing huge damage to the economy, peoples mental health and indeed could in fact be creating additional cases due to people's decision making of meeting up in private homes indoors together, as opposed to going to a well ventilated commercial property or indeed an outdoor sports stadia !!!

It's all pretty simple and surely time our so called "journalists" asked about "following the science" in light of the current case numbers both North and South of the border !!!!

It highlights perfectly the absolute futility of cherrypicking a few things you deem "unnecessary" and slapping arbitrary restrictions on them to try and "control the virus"

Short of a full on, March 2020 style lockdown, you clearly can't control an airborne virus as people (save a few specific places where most wouldn't be going anyway) are essentially free to mix as they please.

Utter nonsense that has been obvious to (and highlighted by) anyone with a brain for a long time.

The problem isn't "the science" itself - it's that those digesting and advising on it, and, subsequently those in charge of putting restrictions in place, are so arrogant about the fact they are able to control the spread of a virus like they can the brightness of a light with a dimmer switch, that they point blank refuse to acknowledge they have gotten a lot of their pandemic response massively wrong.

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19 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

It highlights perfectly the absolute futility of cherrypicking a few things you deem "unnecessary" and slapping arbitrary restrictions on them to try and "control the virus"

Short of a full on, March 2020 style lockdown, you clearly can't control an airborne virus as people (save a few specific places where most wouldn't be going anyway) are essentially free to mix as they please.

Utter nonsense that has been obvious to (and highlighted by) anyone with a brain for a long time.

The problem isn't "the science" itself - it's that those digesting and advising on it, and, subsequently those in charge of putting restrictions in place, are so arrogant about the fact they are able to control the spread of a virus like they can the brightness of a light with a dimmer switch, that they point blank refuse to acknowledge they have gotten a lot of their pandemic response massively wrong.

100% agreement.

If government's want to restrict the virus, it should basically be all (ie lockdown March 2020) or nothing. You simply can't *control* an airborne virus.

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33 minutes ago, Steven W said:

100% agreement.

If government's want to restrict the virus, it should basically be all (ie lockdown March 2020) or nothing. You simply can't *control* an airborne virus.

It's all for show to appease the bottle merchants that our society now seems to be overflowing with and unfortunately the fiba and the dancin are the scapegoats in all of this.

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5 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

 

He said: “I think there’s a very important distinction in the data in Scotland with the data in England and that’s demonstrated by the ONS infections study which came out last week which demonstrated that whilst one in 40 individuals in Scotland are likely to have Covid just now, one in 25 are likely to have it in England."

Not like the SNP to ignore the latest data when it doesn't suit them...

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6 minutes ago, Donathan said:

So Swinney is defending hammering EVERYONE with restrictions in order to get prevalence of 2.5% rather than 4%?

It's an interesting insight into both what they deem a success, and what lengths they deem proportionate to achieve said success.

Also shows they remain fixated on "cases" as a key metric.

Does the benefit to the health service of a 1.5% reduction in "cases" outweight the negative impact of taking over £300m per month out of its budget?

Also, as the latest figures show a per 100k rate exactly the same as England, are you talking pish John?

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Scottish numbers: 4 January 2022

Summary
17,259 new cases of COVID-19 reported*
56,290 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results*
35.3% of these were positive
42 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,147 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,384,343 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination, 4,022,821 have received their second dose, and 3,006,133 have received a third dose or booster

Hospitals up slightly, ICU up by a few.

No word on deaths but I don’t expect we’ll really get any on them until Friday at the earliest.

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