Abdul_Latif Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) From the Record so do forgive me, but the piece is still very valid. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeons-advisers-warn-damage-25833488.amp Edited January 3, 2022 by Abdul_Latif 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: He's quite literally posted the radio interview for full context and his supporters are going 'See? See? Shit gutter journalism'. Then you actually listen to the radio link he's provided - and he says EXACTLY what the paper reported he said. About 12 minutes in for anyone who fancies a listen themselves. The only wiggle room he has is he could spin it that he was trying to be funny by saying April is too early for a Hogmanay party (because it's April, duh!) but that certainly isn't the context in which the question was asked or the answer was given. Once again, if you move with the pandemic and the data available, Omicron is a cold. Why these people are clinging on to a time where it was killing masses of people with no therapeutics or vaccines I just can't fathom . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Some classic political press officer antics from Leitch there. He'll have seen the reaction and asked someone how to deal with it. And they'll have suggested that approach. It's sort of alright for a politician. Even if it does encourage pile-ons. Because they can always not be returned at the next election if the public don't like the approach. But it's not really how an unelected public health official should be acting imo. Edited January 3, 2022 by Jan Vojáček 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Brilliant post, and one which should be definitive enough to shut up these moon howling fvckwits on here who think they're experts, because they post 100 twitter links a day on a football forum. Sadly, it won't though. You'll be ignored, red dotted, and they'll keep on posting their fanatical, abusive garbage. You are the most consistently abusive person on this thread Bob. Your posts are littered with it. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: You are the most consistently abusive person on this thread Bob. Your posts are littered with it. Bob is just another one who can't bear to see any sort of criticism levelled at the SNP, but can't offer up any actual reasons as to why the criticism is wrong. Who can forget that fucking cringe "Full Bolsonaro" affair. Every bit as bad as Danger and his EVERYONES A TORY screeching, although I did see he has sidestepped out of here to casually accuse a sex trafficking victim of being a money grabber..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lithgierose Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 If one person is positive in a household. And using one room only.do the others fully vaccinated have to isolate. if not in direct contact with the person with the cold ? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, lithgierose said: If one person is positive in a household. And using one room only.do the others fully vaccinated have to isolate. if not in direct contact with the person with the cold ? Households have to isolate are guidelines at moment I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, lithgierose said: If one person is positive in a household. And using one room only.do the others fully vaccinated have to isolate. if not in direct contact with the person with the cold ? I believe they do unless you work for an employer who are exempt if the employee is fully vaccinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, RH33 said: Households have to isolate are guidelines at moment I believe. Hope so. The wife works with horses -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I can imagine Sturgeon and others reading this thread on P&B and having a good laugh at the antics of the moon howlers. -14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: I can imagine Sturgeon and others reading this thread on P&B and having a good laugh at the antics of the moon howlers. In this fantasy is she leaning over your shoulder reading your iPad, bosom slightly rubbing against ancient cheek as you giggle together at the silly boys on P&B? 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: In this fantasy is she leaning over your shoulder reading your iPad, bosom slightly rubbing against ancient cheek as you giggle together at the silly boys on P&B? This post just vilifies GD's previous post. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Blyth Spartans hosted Gateshead in 6th tier football match yesterday in front of 2027 fans.... http://www.blythspartans.com/match-photos-blyth-spartans-2-1-gateshead/ An hour away at Kelso Racecourse, crowds are limited to a maximum of 500 for race days on December 29th and upcoming on January 16th.. https://www.kelso-races.co.uk/ I can’t think of a more spatially open area than a racecourse but no doubt the Sturgeon fanboys can show us the medical and science based data? Edited January 3, 2022 by deegee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: This post just vilifies GD's previous post. Verifies Shirley? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunning1874 Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: He's quite literally posted the radio interview for full context and his supporters are going 'See? See? Shit gutter journalism'. Then you actually listen to the radio link he's provided - and he says EXACTLY what the paper reported he said. About 12 minutes in for anyone who fancies a listen themselves. The only wiggle room he has is he could spin it that he was trying to be funny by saying April is too early for a Hogmanay party (because it's April, duh!) but that certainly isn't the context in which the question was asked or the answer was given. If you were wanting to be extremely charitable in interpreting his comments you could choose to believe that "too early" meant just now, on 2nd January when he was giving this interview, is too early to talk about what may or may not be happening in April, rather than April being too early for events to take place. You could also very charitably argue that would be in keeping with not giving definitive answers about the state of things in several months, when it would be irresponsible for a public health advisor to speculate about something when they don't have clue what the situation will look like. However I don't think that's what he was getting at and even if it was, the answer he gives still does speculate about April and suggest restrictions will be in place, which is extremely irresponsible. If he was actually wanting to avoid speculation all he'd have to say is, sorry, he's not going to make any comment on a question about April as it's not within his remit to speculate about what will be happening months down the line without any data to inform that. Instead, he does explicitly suggest restrictions will be in place. This is an entirely separate issue from the rights and wrongs of whether restrictions should be in place. He's appearing across various forms of media frequently in a role as a public health advisor, ostensibly to provide public health advice as part of a wider campaign. If he then starts giving speculative answers which aren't informed by any data and sow panic, he isn't actually providing public health advice and therefore has no reason to be appearing in the media. At worst, that makes him a self-aggrandising gobshite who doesn't actually care about the harm done by this kind of baseless speculative scaremongering as he's enjoying the attention and media profile. If that's the case he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the media and should resign from his position. At best, he is genuinely well-meaning and isn't intending to indulge in baseless speculation but is incapable of answering questions without doing so and is unable to see how harmful that is. If that's the case, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the media and should resign from his position. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: This post just vilifies GD's previous post. 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Verifies Shirley? Two of the great academics of our time meet... Edited January 3, 2022 by djchapsticks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Two of the great academia of our time meet... Its always fun to watch somone slowly dissolve away from having anything to contribute and just go through the motions of name calling, accuse others of name calling, then just spam the thread with nonsense and pretend you're just having a big laugh at everyone else. We have now reached Dangers spamming phase...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: If you were wanting to be extremely charitable in interpreting his comments you could choose to believe that "too early" meant just now, on 2nd January when he was giving this interview, is too early to talk about what may or may not be happening in April, rather than April being too early for events to take place. You could also very charitably argue that would be in keeping with not giving definitive answers about the state of things in several months, when it would be irresponsible for a public health advisor to speculate about something when they don't have clue what the situation will look like. However I don't think that's what he was getting at and even if it was, the answer he gives still does speculate about April and suggest restrictions will be in place, which is extremely irresponsible. If he was actually wanting to avoid speculation all he'd have to say is, sorry, he's not going to make any comment on a question about April as it's not within his remit to speculate about what will be happening months down the line without any data to inform that. Instead, he does explicitly suggest restrictions will be in place. This is an entirely separate issue from the rights and wrongs of whether restrictions should be in place. He's appearing across various forms of media frequently in a role as a public health advisor, ostensibly to provide public health advice as part of a wider campaign. If he then starts giving speculative answers which aren't informed by any data and sow panic, he isn't actually providing public health advice and therefore has no reason to be appearing in the media. At worst, that makes him a self-aggrandising gobshite who doesn't actually care about the harm done by this kind of baseless speculative scaremongering as he's enjoying the attention and media profile. If that's the case he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the media and should resign from his position. At best, he is genuinely well-meaning and isn't intending to indulge in baseless speculation but is incapable of answering questions without doing so and is unable to see how harmful that is. If that's the case, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the media and should resign from his position. Excellent point. He's either malicious or incompetent. Neither of which makes him fit to retain the position he finds himself in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Verifies Shirley? Indeed! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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