Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Elixir]

Great thread.

 

[Honest_Man#1]

32 minutes ago, Jan Vojáček said:

The responses to this are quite something. It does feel as if the tide is definitely turning. Uncharacteristically tone deaf to post it today too imo.

 

Hilarious comment in defence of Sturgeon from the boy with the SNP badge as his picture about how Twitter is barely used and posting there isn’t reaching many people as it’s “not like it’s the 10 o’clock news”. Still living in 1980 apparently.

[ICTChris]

"Media free" 

[Jacksgranda]

16 hours ago, sparky88 said:

The only thing I can think of is that the different demographics of SA and UK make it slightly more difficult to compare the two.

The whole situation is almost like a mirror image of the data from Italy in March 2020, when folk were saying 'italys population is really old that's why they have had so many deaths'. And that was used as excuse for inaction on lockdowns in UK and elsewhere.  

Well, it's not really old now

[TheScarf]

6 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

"Media free" 

Just like her announcement yesterday.  Such a shitebag move.  Very Tory-like.

[Clown Job]

It’s depressing seeing so many pubs having to cancel events now 

I feel especially bad for the smaller ones that have limited room for only a small number of tables 

 

[Swordfishtrombone]

1 hour ago, Elixir said:

It will be over next year whether they like it or not as pretty much everyone will have been exposed and/or immunised. They'll claim it's over purely because of vaccination and public health messaging, etc, rather than it simply being the natural course of such an outbreak. Places like East Asia, Australia and New Zealand will still face a lot of challenges, though.

I'd imagine they would like it to be over. 

[Billy Jean King]

That's not how things work. With each new exposure, we increasingly layer our immunity. It's how things would inevitably get better even without vaccination or the virus itself getting intrinsically less virulent. The question is whether we are believed to be at that point now, or not quite. Obviously, myself and most others here think we are already there. Balloux has also always predicted that late 2021, though potentially up to another six months, would be when the pandemic ends.

Let's see the reaction to the next variant and judge it then. This doesn't augur well though. It's how governments react that will decide when life gets back to normal as we are seeing all along.

[LongTimeLurker]

21 minutes ago, Snafu said:

More encouraging news from South Africa - https://www.africanews.com/2021/12/22/south-african-scientist-announces-end-of-peak-of-coronavirus-infections/

Looks like a very steep sharp wave then falls off very quickly.

Given that the first case flagged was around a month ago, could we be seeing something similar in the UK in a week or two?

Probably In the absence of additional restrictions. Some people think London has already peaked in a similar manner to what happened first in Gauteng in South Africa. We need something like that to be blindingly obvious soon or Nicola Sturgeon will keep adding extra layers of restrictions to pretend she is in control when all she is really doing is slowing down the process of reaching herd immunity for that particular variant. 

[ICTChris]

 

 

[Jan Vojáček]

5 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

 

 

I'm very glad she was called out on the Herald stuff. She started a pile on, which is absolutely fine and deserved if their story wasn't accurate. But it was. Her only excuse would be if she didn't know about potential plans for a recall after Christmas - but the Herald somehow did. Which seems incredibly unlikely.

[WeAreElgin]

Chris Musson works for the sun, think I'd put more faith in the tragically bald than that c**t

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

I'm very glad she was called out on the Herald stuff. She started a pile on, which is absolutely fine and deserved if their story wasn't accurate. But it was. Her only excuse would be if she didn't know about potential plans for a recall after Christmas - but the Herald somehow did. Which seems incredibly unlikely.

Sturgeon has difficulty recalling things remember.

[Elixir]

41 minutes ago, Snafu said:

More encouraging news from South Africa - https://www.africanews.com/2021/12/22/south-african-scientist-announces-end-of-peak-of-coronavirus-infections/

Looks like a very steep sharp wave then falls off very quickly.

Given that the first case flagged was around a month ago, could we be seeing something similar in the UK in a week or two?

Yes.

 

22 minutes ago, Swordfishtrombone said:

I'd imagine they would like it to be over. 

Well...

 

20 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

2 hours ago, Elixir said:

That's not how things work. With each new exposure, we increasingly layer our immunity. It's how things would inevitably get better even without vaccination or the virus itself getting intrinsically less virulent. The question is whether we are believed to be at that point now, or not quite. Obviously, myself and most others here think we are already there. Balloux has also always predicted that late 2021, though potentially up to another six months, would be when the pandemic ends.

Let's see the reaction to the next variant and judge it then. This doesn't augur well though. It's how governments react that will decide when life gets back to normal as we are seeing all along.

When hardly anyone is getting sick in future it's not going to matter.

[Scary Bear]

1 hour ago, NotThePars said:

Granny Danger voted unthinkingly for one party all his life then switched to another to do the same thing and thinks this radical decision gives him a right to lecture everyone else. A waste of time with nothing insightful or original to offer.

He’s typical of the Scottish electorate. Did like the colour red. Now likes yellow. Doesn’t care about the calibre of the people who are wearing it.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

OYF [emoji23]

[Detournement]

35 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

 

 

Boris level of lying from wee Nipster.

She's losing the plot.

[PedroMoutinho]

So much for ‘doubling every 2 days’ 

 

[Jan Vojáček]

 

[Todd_is_God]

7 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

So much for ‘doubling every 2 days’