pozbaird Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Jambomo said: The problem is that having a massive wave of people who are sick at one time is as bad for the economy as lockdown is. Yesterday i was on the way to a dentist appointment and there were a number of announcements about train cancellations because of staff sickness. The appointment I had was rearranged because the first one the dentist was off sick. I know my brother had so many staff off sick (he’s down south) that his cafe was shut and not making any money for nearly 2 weeks. Sick people aren’t going out and spending money, then shops, cafes, pubs etc aren’t making enough. Limiting the spread is still important, perhaps not to the extent of saving lives but to try and prevent mass illness at one time. At least lockdown normally brings furlough money with it but if everyone is still getting sick, then there is still a problem. Shut the fcuking schools then. My brother, who has kids of school age in Ayr, tells me it is rampant in schools, the school football team, his daughter’s Girl Guides group, her swimming class, his son’s U10 academy football side…. But let’s shut down outdoor football stadiums mostly frequented by highly vaccinated adults. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, jamamafegan said: That’s me cancelled my SNP membership. Congratulations but lol at him personally thanking you for stuffing his bank account. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 I have missed the announcement today. Are gyms having to shut or anything like that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djchapsticks Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Squalor Vic said: I hear you 100% Honestly. I know you get the folk who come on here and go on about how 'Oh, the usual suspects just want any excuse to stick the blade in oor Nic' etc, but I genuinely am totally gutted about how we have been governed since late 2020. I voted for them in every local and general election since about 2010. I never bothered at all about politics before then but I decided to register and vote as I genuinely believed in what they stood for and what they were fighting for. I was (and am still) a huge proponent of Independence but this wasn't my only reason for an SNP vote. I honestly believed they were essentially good at the heart of everything they did and were doing their best to make Scotland better rather than an afterthought of the UK. I was also fully on board for lockdown one. I didn't like it....hated it in fact. My mum had just been diagnosed with terminal blood cancer around 3 months prior and I didn't see her for nearly four months from March because it was for the best not to, it was only a while though, I believed and it would give her a better chance of extending her life. It broke my heart (and still does as she's no longer with us) but I was fully on board with it, for both her and my dad. My stepdaughter also worked in a care home and me and my partner took her wee girl for a few weeks to put that separation there so she was minimising risk. She was coming in from work every day and phoning us to tell us another two, three people had succumbed to it and she could do nothing but leave them in a room themselves as they died, because she couldn't be in all rooms at all times. Then when things started opening up a bit again in August/Sept 2020 it was like a pressure valve has been released a bit. I was getting to the gym - 5 mornings a week for the 13 weeks we were allowed to reopen and I was feeling not too bad. That's at the point I started questioning both in person and on here, 'what is the end game?', if the vaccines don't work or there's no effective medicine, how do we get out of this? It was a question that I thought wasn't being asked by a media giving the government an easy ride on both sides of the border. As the 'we know better than you' attitude came and with it, the 'behave or we'll shut you down again' rhetoric began, my opinion started to gradually sway. Started to see a side of the ruling party up here that was unimaginable a few months earlier. From there, my concern and agitation has morphed into outright hatred of the party as it has gradually worn me down to the point where I honestly can't fathom why I ever voted for them in the first place and actually feel relief that the 2014 referendum didn't go the way I voted as we'd have been in even worse restrictions for even longer than we are with this mob having full control. We were promised that the vaccine was the way out of this, that with an effective vaccine programme, we'd never have to resort to such draconian measures such as locking people down again, criminalising them for being within 5 miles of their fucking homes or out for more than one walk in a day! Measures that they will tell you they HATE imposing on people as NS stands on the podium with her face contorted in her best look of concern. We locked down again at the start of the year and my partner, a self-employed hairdresser was forced to stop working for three months, not only that but because she had only registered as self employed within the previous 12 months, was eligible for nothing. We were left up shit creek and told 'something will come along' she was forced into jobseekers for the first time in her life as there was no help, no discretionary fund. They only found her a loophole 10 days before everything reopened and she got got about 50% of her lost potential earnings back for the period but by that point, she was despondent that she'd been denied the right to work and had no help forthcoming to offset that. This last two years has been a fucking hellscape for people and their mental health. My story isn't even one of hardship in relative terms to what some have gone through but I've hated every single minute of it. The separation from friends, from family, the fact I didn't see my mum nearly as much as I should have in the last 18 months of her life. My mental health is in the gutter, my physical health is ruined, I am constantly anxious for my still grieving dad who lost his partner of 40 years and spends most of his days/nights alone and is now being told that he has further restrictions on what he can. So yes, I'm fucking bitter. This isn't about locking down for three weeks - it's about things being taken away from you just because they say so. They don't even need solid evidence to do so anymore and can do it on the threat of something maybe happening. Meanwhile like the Tories they hate so much, they backhander their mates for preferred work, they shoot down any vocal opposition to their policies with barbed replies, they try and retain emergency powers for non-emergency times, they cover up scandal after scandal and laugh as they get away with it. At least you know the tories are outright c***s...folk like Rees-Mogg and Gove are never going to masquerade as humanitarians. The SNP do it under the guise of caring and love for the people of the country and are every bit as evil and dangerous. TL:DR - f**k all of the c***s. Edited December 21, 2021 by djchapsticks 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Montrose getting Tom English telt on Twitter. Pleasing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, betting competition said: Well, clearly the 'covid certification' was fucking wonderful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I'm taking the 'get your restrictions to f**k' route here. Did as I was told for 2 years on the basis that the vaccines were the way out. I dont like the "we were told vaccines were the way out" arguement even though I agree with it because it gives them a fairly easy out to spout "we just dont know" lies about vaccine evasion and so forth. The arguement against this tranche of restrictions at its very core has to be they clearly arent fucking needed. They clearly wont make any difference, and they are clearly at the extreme wrong end of any cost/benefit balance. Forget the vaccines and any promises made there, the bottom line is that there is NOTHING to suggest these restriction are needed OR will work anyway. If you needed further evidence of this, see Javid, Raab and Leitch among others all lining up to go on tv and repeatedly misrepresent the numbers, lie about them, change the definitions to suit etc etc. The list goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Was looking forward to watching us lose a last minute winner to Hearts as well I do not want to hear a fucking word from these c***s again until they are in front of a parliamentary inquiry. Hopefully everyone will be ignoring this shite as much as is possible. Unwanted advice but don't waste your time on this thread unless it genuinely helps you, just popping in here every few days makes me wish I'd a gun to ol' yeller myself with the shite these folk expect us to listen to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I have missed the announcement today. Are gyms having to shut or anything like that? Not that I can see, brother. I'll be heading there at 5 and will walk about mask less between exercises as I've been doing before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I have missed the announcement today. Are gyms having to shut or anything like that? It’s something the SNP at Holyrood should absolutely do. With immediate effect - shut establishments that are responsible for zero large scale outbreaks, encourage physical and mental well-being, stop us becoming fat basturts who may need NHS treatment, and at this time of year, when a wee bit of over-eating and drinking occurs, allows many of us (triple jabbed by the way), to mitigate some of the effects associated with big fcuking Toblerones and three plates of trifle. Shut the gyms, Krankie you wee shitebag. Do it. Edited December 21, 2021 by pozbaird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TheScarf said: Not that I can see, brother. I'll be heading there at 5 and will walk about mask less between exercises as I've been doing before. Me getting some Hench time in before Christmas tonight 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Can I just bin the vaccine passport as apparently it makes no fucking difference if you’re vaccinated or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Booster is it aye? Away and take a suck of my arsehole you utter, utter cuntmuscle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Are the thoughts of the P&B demographic wildly out of line with the rest of the country, or are attitudes to potential further restrictions going to really start pissing off the majority of folk? (I agree with pretty much everything people have been saying on here this morning)I would suspect that there is still a sizeable majority in favour of restrictions but a lot of those people will no doubt do their own bending of the rules if it suits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I have missed the announcement today. Are gyms having to shut or anything like that? No just indoor contact sport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, pozbaird said: It’s something the SNP at Holyrood should absolutely do. With immediate effect - shut establishments that are responsible for zero large scale outbreaks, encourage physical and mental well-being, stop us becoming fat basturts who may need NHS treatment, and at this time of year, when a wee bit of over-eating and drinking occurs, allows many of us (triple jabbed by the way), to mitigate some of the effects associated with big fcuking Toblerones and three plates of trifle. Shut the gyms, Krankie you wee shitebag. Do it. It was unbelievable how long the SG kept gyms and pools shut last year. They didn’t reopen until September iirc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: No just indoor contact sport. That's my Judo, Taikwondo and Karate (black belt in all obvs) off then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Any compensation Nippy? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) The specimen date data is now out, and there remains little to convince me that circling the 15th of Dember as "the peak" would be an odds against scenario. It also looks like it is thundering down rather than plateauing. ETA Probably helps to show the data. I've added the change based on today to the right hand column. Unless there have been some dated back even further then I clearly can't count and have missed 3, but it makes no difference to the overall trend. Edited December 21, 2021 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: Any compensation Nippy? £6,000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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